Bearish Season Prediction

BrunellMVP? · 10-31-2006, 03:32 PM

11/5 vs.

Cowboys 1pm ET FOX 11/12 @

Eagles 1pm ET FOX 11/19 @

Buccaneers 1pm ET FOX 11/26 vs.

Panthers 1pm ET FOX 12/3 vs.

Falcons 1pm ET FOX 12/10 vs.

Eagles 1pm ET FOX 12/17 @

Saints 1pm ET FOX 12/24 @

Rams 1pm ET FOX 12/30 vs.

Giants 8pm ET NFL Network

that is the remaining schedule...

Our side, Our O can't score, and Our D can't stop people from scoring...

That being said, lets see how we end up, and lets not forget, we have gotten blown out by dallas but for carwright's return, same with the colts and Randle El.

Dallas: Thought this was a win, but Romo looks good and we can't stop
the run. God I hope we win.
Eagle: mcnabb will find his touch vs our secondary...3 tds easy. each
game.
Bucs: Not a good team but neither are we...we'll see
Panthers: Solid Team. smith gets 2tds and 160 yards. foster runs for 130
and 1 td. Peppers gets 3 sacks.
Falcons- vick has tossed for 300 and 3 tds past few weeks...do you really
think we stop him? 2 tds thrown, 1 run, dunn gets in as well.
Saints- Solid team. 2 tds for brees. 1 for duece and maybe bush. same for
rams.
Giants: repeat of game in meadowlands uness they are benching their
starters....

i truly don't see a win (besides bucs), but think we will pull out 2-3. 4, if god really smiles upon us...

I wish i were kidding, but i think we are looking at 4-12 or 5-11...

hopefully Portis will dominate, and some of these predictions wont come true...fact is, the MOST we'll ever get out of brunell is 2 td and 225 (which is a large step up from current production)- and he cant do that week in, week out.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-31-2006, 03:37 PM

Do you guys really think our secondary is going to suck this bad when we have both starting corners back? Remember, it was GREAT when both Springs and Rogers were in there last year. I'm still worried about the run defense, but pass defense should be much improved. We won't have Archuleta playing a position he's not supposed to be playing.

BrunellMVP? · 10-31-2006, 03:44 PM

i do...i love springs, despite his being injury prone, but Rogers is not up to speed yet. He's been consistently burned by WRs no matter who he's been matched up against. while he's seen higher caliber WRs this year, having filled in for Springs, he's been burned badly...i don't think many would consider Williamson from the Vikings or anyone on the titans to be considered legit No. 1 guys. If plexico is covered, toomer will score. if TO is covered Glenn will score. if Stallwort is covered, brown will score. if steve smith then k johnson.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-31-2006, 03:46 PM

Please tell me who he has been consistently burned by besides Troy Williamson. It's been rare.

BrunellMVP? · 10-31-2006, 03:48 PM

are you serious? please see any of the threads on carlos "cushion" rogers...

he's been next to useless

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-31-2006, 03:52 PM

I'll repeat, who has he gotten burned by again?

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-31-2006, 03:53 PM

I don't feel like getting the exact stats, but Rogers has only given up two TDs this year. That's like a fraction of the rest of the secondary. Add in the fact that we'll have Springs on the other side AND Rogers playing where he was meant to, and we'll be fine.

724Skinsfan · 10-31-2006, 03:59 PM

As a fan of the Redskins, I don't see a point to this thread other than that maybe you're suggesting we don't watch the remaining games because we'll give up at 21 points and lose every game.

Here's my Bullish Season Prediction:

Dallas: This is a win, but Romo looks like a homo and we stop
the run. God I hope we win.
Eagle: mcnabb will find his receivers covered ...3 INT's easy. each
game.
Bucs: Not a good game for the Bucs...we'll see a totally dominating effort
Panthers: Sucky Team. smith does get 2tds and 160 yards. foster runs for 13 yards and 1 fumble. Peppers gets 3 face to face meet-n-greets with Sellers.
Falcons- vick has tossed for 300 and 3 tds past few weeks...do you really
think we stop him? Yes! 2 INT's thrown, 1 fumble, dunn gets stopped as well.
Saints- Average team. 2 tds for brees. 0 TD's for duece and probably bush. same for rams.
Giants: repeat of game in Landover (2005) uness we are benching our
starters....

BrunellMVP? · 10-31-2006, 04:18 PM

Re: 724, yet another comically blind fan who refuses to legitimately look at the season prospects, but i hope he is right. i like how you simply dismiss all other talent in favor of your simple, yet elegant arguments (romo is a homo)...

as for rogers, are you really going to just soley based on TDs given up? i don't believe he's been only burned for 2, but i'll leave that alone. what about his large cushion that he gives to each of opponent allowing them to catch anywhere between 8-12 yards at will (even in 4th and 8 situations...i remind you...)

I mean, lets be honest. rogers has not shown an ability to people, that is prevent them from going for bigs days when he's defending.

I will attempt to locate stats for rogers, as i not have hard ones at my disposal. Do you?

Southpaw · 10-31-2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I don't feel like getting the exact stats, but Rogers has only given up two TDs this year. That's like a fraction of the rest of the secondary. Add in the fact that we'll have Springs on the other side AND Rogers playing where he was meant to, and we'll be fine.

I also think that Rogers is far better than he is getting credit for. There's not a corner in the league that covers like Champ Bailey, so not every corner that Washington drafts should be expected to perform like him. Rogers may not play man coverage like Champ, but I think that's partially due to the scheme and injuries in the secondary. I do think he's a very good tackler as far as corners go though.

As far as the original post, I'd have to agree that 5-11 seems very likely with the current state of the team, but I'll reserve my final opinion until after the Dallas game.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-31-2006, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

Re: 724, yet another comically blind fan who refuses to legitimately look at the season prospects, but i hope he is right. i like how you simply dismiss all other talent in favor of your simple, yet elegant arguments (romo is a homo)...

as for rogers, are you really going to just soley based on TDs given up? i don't believe he's been only burned for 2, but i'll leave that alone. what about his large cushion that he gives to each of opponent allowing them to catch anywhere between 8-12 yards at will (even in 4th and 8 situations...i remind you...)

I mean, lets be honest. rogers has not shown an ability to people, that is prevent them from going for bigs days when he's defending.

I will attempt to locate stats for rogers, as i not have hard ones at my disposal. Do you?

I'll get some hard ones, but seriously, the secondary gets a bad rap SPECIFICALLY for the play of one Kenny Wright and less-so Mike Rumph. They abuse Kenny Wright and then the whole secondary looks bad.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-31-2006, 04:39 PM

Overall though, Rogers is an EXCELLENT tackling corner. If they show the pass in the flats, he is up on that in seconds. I didn't even see Chris Gamble do that.

BrunellMVP? · 10-31-2006, 04:41 PM

i'd appreciate it...you are probably right (re:wright and rumph), however I still believe rogers gives up far too many first downs via his cushion...i also remember him giving up TDs, but i could be wrong. I'm not sure who tracks these stats? have to remind myself that he's only in his second year. (but also that he's a top 10 pick)

Fan4Life · 10-31-2006, 04:41 PM

Finally a realist. hate to admit it tho but I see it your way MVP.

SmootSmack · 10-31-2006, 04:43 PM

Well, as has been mentioned, playing on the other side of Springs will help Rogers immensely. It did last year. And, unfortunately, people tend to compare Rogers to Smoot. And Smoot is put on a higher pedestal by a lot of people just because he's no longer a Redskin. So he's seen as yet another stud we let get away. But if you look at the numbers, Smoot's really aren't better than Rogers' and Carlos hasn't embarrassed the organization with any extracurricular activities. 'LOS SMACK!

10-31-2006, 03:32 PM	#1
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Bearish Season Prediction 11/5 vs. Cowboys 1pm ET FOX 11/12 @ Eagles 1pm ET FOX 11/19 @ Buccaneers 1pm ET FOX 11/26 vs. Panthers 1pm ET FOX 12/3 vs. Falcons 1pm ET FOX 12/10 vs. Eagles 1pm ET FOX 12/17 @ Saints 1pm ET FOX 12/24 @ Rams 1pm ET FOX 12/30 vs. Giants 8pm ET NFL Network that is the remaining schedule... Our side, Our O can't score, and Our D can't stop people from scoring... That being said, lets see how we end up, and lets not forget, we have gotten blown out by dallas but for carwright's return, same with the colts and Randle El. Dallas: Thought this was a win, but Romo looks good and we can't stop the run. God I hope we win. Eagle: mcnabb will find his touch vs our secondary...3 tds easy. each game. Bucs: Not a good team but neither are we...we'll see Panthers: Solid Team. smith gets 2tds and 160 yards. foster runs for 130 and 1 td. Peppers gets 3 sacks. Falcons- vick has tossed for 300 and 3 tds past few weeks...do you really think we stop him? 2 tds thrown, 1 run, dunn gets in as well. Saints- Solid team. 2 tds for brees. 1 for duece and maybe bush. same for rams. Giants: repeat of game in meadowlands uness they are benching their starters.... i truly don't see a win (besides bucs), but think we will pull out 2-3. 4, if god really smiles upon us... I wish i were kidding, but i think we are looking at 4-12 or 5-11... hopefully Portis will dominate, and some of these predictions wont come true...fact is, the MOST we'll ever get out of brunell is 2 td and 225 (which is a large step up from current production)- and he cant do that week in, week out. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

10-31-2006, 03:37 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Bearish Season Prediction Do you guys really think our secondary is going to suck this bad when we have both starting corners back? Remember, it was GREAT when both Springs and Rogers were in there last year. I'm still worried about the run defense, but pass defense should be much improved. We won't have Archuleta playing a position he's not supposed to be playing. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-31-2006, 03:44 PM	#3
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Bearish Season Prediction i do...i love springs, despite his being injury prone, but Rogers is not up to speed yet. He's been consistently burned by WRs no matter who he's been matched up against. while he's seen higher caliber WRs this year, having filled in for Springs, he's been burned badly...i don't think many would consider Williamson from the Vikings or anyone on the titans to be considered legit No. 1 guys. If plexico is covered, toomer will score. if TO is covered Glenn will score. if Stallwort is covered, brown will score. if steve smith then k johnson. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

10-31-2006, 03:46 PM	#4
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Bearish Season Prediction Please tell me who he has been consistently burned by besides Troy Williamson. It's been rare. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-31-2006, 03:48 PM	#5
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Bearish Season Prediction are you serious? please see any of the threads on carlos "cushion" rogers... he's been next to useless __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

10-31-2006, 03:52 PM	#6
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Bearish Season Prediction I'll repeat, who has he gotten burned by again? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-31-2006, 03:53 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Bearish Season Prediction I don't feel like getting the exact stats, but Rogers has only given up two TDs this year. That's like a fraction of the rest of the secondary. Add in the fact that we'll have Springs on the other side AND Rogers playing where he was meant to, and we'll be fine. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-31-2006, 03:59 PM	#8
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Bearish Season Prediction As a fan of the Redskins, I don't see a point to this thread other than that maybe you're suggesting we don't watch the remaining games because we'll give up at 21 points and lose every game. Here's my Bullish Season Prediction: Dallas: This is a win, but Romo looks like a homo and we stop the run. God I hope we win. Eagle: mcnabb will find his receivers covered ...3 INT's easy. each game. Bucs: Not a good game for the Bucs...we'll see a totally dominating effort Panthers: Sucky Team. smith does get 2tds and 160 yards. foster runs for 13 yards and 1 fumble. Peppers gets 3 face to face meet-n-greets with Sellers. Falcons- vick has tossed for 300 and 3 tds past few weeks...do you really think we stop him? Yes! 2 INT's thrown, 1 fumble, dunn gets stopped as well. Saints- Average team. 2 tds for brees. 0 TD's for duece and probably bush. same for rams. Giants: repeat of game in Landover (2005) uness we are benching our starters.... __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

10-31-2006, 04:18 PM	#9
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Bearish Season Prediction Re: 724, yet another comically blind fan who refuses to legitimately look at the season prospects, but i hope he is right. i like how you simply dismiss all other talent in favor of your simple, yet elegant arguments (romo is a homo)... as for rogers, are you really going to just soley based on TDs given up? i don't believe he's been only burned for 2, but i'll leave that alone. what about his large cushion that he gives to each of opponent allowing them to catch anywhere between 8-12 yards at will (even in 4th and 8 situations...i remind you...) I mean, lets be honest. rogers has not shown an ability to people, that is prevent them from going for bigs days when he's defending. I will attempt to locate stats for rogers, as i not have hard ones at my disposal. Do you? __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

10-31-2006, 04:39 PM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Bearish Season Prediction Overall though, Rogers is an EXCELLENT tackling corner. If they show the pass in the flats, he is up on that in seconds. I didn't even see Chris Gamble do that. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-31-2006, 04:41 PM	#13
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Bearish Season Prediction i'd appreciate it...you are probably right (re:wright and rumph), however I still believe rogers gives up far too many first downs via his cushion...i also remember him giving up TDs, but i could be wrong. I'm not sure who tracks these stats? have to remind myself that he's only in his second year. (but also that he's a top 10 pick) __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

10-31-2006, 04:41 PM	#14
Fan4Life Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 57 Posts: 67	Re: Bearish Season Prediction Finally a realist. hate to admit it tho but I see it your way MVP.

10-31-2006, 04:43 PM	#15
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Bearish Season Prediction Well, as has been mentioned, playing on the other side of Springs will help Rogers immensely. It did last year. And, unfortunately, people tend to compare Rogers to Smoot. And Smoot is put on a higher pedestal by a lot of people just because he's no longer a Redskin. So he's seen as yet another stud we let get away. But if you look at the numbers, Smoot's really aren't better than Rogers' and Carlos hasn't embarrassed the organization with any extracurricular activities. 'LOS SMACK! __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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