Landis Test Positive for Doping

FRPLG · 07-27-2006, 12:01 PM

Tour de France, CYCLING - CBS SportsLine.com

Every major news site is reporting it.

BrudLee · 07-27-2006, 12:03 PM

I wish I could say I was surprised, but cycling has such a culture of corruption that it doesn't phase me.

cpayne5 · 07-27-2006, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

I wish I could say I was surprised, but cycling has such a culture of corruption that it doesn't phase me.

I'm disappointed. I don't really like cycling, but I was rooting for this guy to win for the shear fact that the Frenchies hated Lance Armstrong so much.

BigSKINBauer · 07-27-2006, 12:10 PM

i heard this on elliot today

Look.

He is a dumbass. A f...ing, grade A, certified POS dumbass. Why would you even try that shit in cycling? There is absolutely no way you wouldn't get caught. That is like doing that in the olympics.

FRPLG · 07-27-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

i heard this on elliot today

Look.

He is a dumbass. A f...ing, grade A, certified POS dumbass. Why would you even try that shit in cycling? There is absolutely no way you wouldn't get caught. That is like doing that in the olympics.

Apparently Lance Armstrong got away with it. At least that's what Dick Pound, The Frenchies, and all the Bonds apologists would have you believe. Or you could be right and all the other idiot agenda touters can piss off. I am going with you being right.

Monkeydad · 07-27-2006, 12:22 PM

I think we need to hold off hanging the guy until we get the details.

The French anti-doping committee is really an anti-American committee. Look at how badly they tried to get rid of Lance Armstrong because they couldn't beat him on the race course. They were RIDICULOUS. Lance was tested something like 7 times before his last race and they still couldn't find anything, while they barely tested their own cyclists.

They said that found his testosertone levels were high. Landis has a deteriorated hip that is going to be replaced now that the race is over. It could've been an effect of some painkillers and trust me, no drug could give him ANY advantage over the Frenchie cyclists with the condition of his hip. He was in a ton of pain the whole time and still won.

This same anti-doping group tried nonstop to accuse Lance Armstrong of things he wasn't guilty of. They probably thought that they'd have a chance to win now with him retired and to their horror, ANOTHER American beat them. Why else would they not ban him BEFORE the race if they had really found something? This is just another attempt to remove the real competition so they'll have a chance to win. The French haven't won their own race since 1985 and have always been sore losers and bad sportsmen. Look how the World Cup soccer tournament ended for them.

I don't think he cheated. I really don't. Even if there was something in his system, it doesn't change the fact that it was extremely painful for him to even enter the race. He was going to need a hip replacement anyways and this could be his last chance to fulfill his dream, so I don't think he's knowingly risk it by cheating.

He probably won't be able to compete at the level he can now with the new hip. He'll have to be more careful with that joint because they DO wear out. When younger people get joint replacements, they'll likely need it replaced again later in life since the artificial joints (some parts are made of teflon) do have a certain life span (depending on the joing it's 10-20 years) even without pushing them like an athlete would. It's best to put off joint replacements as long as possible so that you can avoid wearing it out. I have a finger joint that needs replaced from breaking it when I played baseball. I ALREADY had arthritis in it, so the injury just made it worse than it was. It's not too painful now so I'm going to put it off another 20 years if I can stand to, so I won't need it done more than once.

I don't know why there is such a kneejerk action to trust this organization who has blatantly cheated themselves before by trying to pin untrue things on Americans just so they can ban them.

Monkeydad · 07-27-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Apparently Lance Armstrong got away with it. At least that's what Dick Pound, The Frenchies, and all the Bonds apologists would have you believe. Or you could be right and all the other idiot agenda touters can piss off. I am going with you being right.

With the number of times they tested him?

They never legitimately found anything in Lance.

BigSKINBauer · 07-27-2006, 12:26 PM

lance would never be that dumb. Lance is the man. Its not like he had to win... or even compete. He has proven himself as being a cycling god.

The frenchies are just mad that americans are always winning. I don't believe their fake testing. They tried it last year and they are trying it again.

if landis did it, there aren't many people that are more dumb.

gibbsisgod · 07-27-2006, 12:30 PM

rumor has it that the bsb is doping. how else could he have reached 4000 so quickly.

Monkeydad · 07-27-2006, 12:30 PM

Soon, they'll have to rename it "le Toure de America".

BigSKINBauer · 07-27-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

rumor has it that the bsb is doping. how else could he have reached 4000 so quickly.

because i'm a BEAST.

SmootSmack · 07-27-2006, 01:39 PM

For whatever reason under my motor sports responsibilities at ESPN falls cycling. So yesterday I was talking with his PR people when I found out. All I could think was "of course" He insists it's a mistake but what else would they say?

Hail2theskins · 07-27-2006, 01:54 PM

see and with all this news of the ridiculous frenchmen, here the skins are about to try one out...

(its a joke no need to be offended)

Riggo44 · 07-27-2006, 03:25 PM

That really sucks! I was really happy for the guy.I hope it's not true.

ArtMonkDrillz · 07-27-2006, 03:37 PM

Would any of these guys really be happy with themselves if they won after doping?
When it all comes down to it, cycling is an individual sport. So, wouldn't the knowledge that you only beat these other guys because you cheated always be somewhere in the back of your brain? Are they so obsessed with winning at all costs that they don't care if they only won because they cheated?
Or maybe they think "well, since everyone else is probably cheating, I'm just leveling the playing field."

I've just never understood why someone would cheat in an individual sport. (for some odd reason I can see why people do it in team sports, I can't explain that one) Maybe I'm just naive.

07-27-2006, 12:01 PM	#1
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Landis Test Positive for Doping Tour de France, CYCLING - CBS SportsLine.com Every major news site is reporting it.

07-27-2006, 12:03 PM	#2
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Landis Test Positive for Doping I wish I could say I was surprised, but cycling has such a culture of corruption that it doesn't phase me. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

07-27-2006, 12:10 PM	#4
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Landis Test Positive for Doping i heard this on elliot today Look. He is a dumbass. A f...ing, grade A, certified POS dumbass. Why would you even try that shit in cycling? There is absolutely no way you wouldn't get caught. That is like doing that in the olympics.

07-27-2006, 12:22 PM	#6
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: Landis Test Positive for Doping I think we need to hold off hanging the guy until we get the details. The French anti-doping committee is really an anti-American committee. Look at how badly they tried to get rid of Lance Armstrong because they couldn't beat him on the race course. They were RIDICULOUS. Lance was tested something like 7 times before his last race and they still couldn't find anything, while they barely tested their own cyclists. They said that found his testosertone levels were high. Landis has a deteriorated hip that is going to be replaced now that the race is over. It could've been an effect of some painkillers and trust me, no drug could give him ANY advantage over the Frenchie cyclists with the condition of his hip. He was in a ton of pain the whole time and still won. This same anti-doping group tried nonstop to accuse Lance Armstrong of things he wasn't guilty of. They probably thought that they'd have a chance to win now with him retired and to their horror, ANOTHER American beat them. Why else would they not ban him BEFORE the race if they had really found something? This is just another attempt to remove the real competition so they'll have a chance to win. The French haven't won their own race since 1985 and have always been sore losers and bad sportsmen. Look how the World Cup soccer tournament ended for them. I don't think he cheated. I really don't. Even if there was something in his system, it doesn't change the fact that it was extremely painful for him to even enter the race. He was going to need a hip replacement anyways and this could be his last chance to fulfill his dream, so I don't think he's knowingly risk it by cheating. He probably won't be able to compete at the level he can now with the new hip. He'll have to be more careful with that joint because they DO wear out. When younger people get joint replacements, they'll likely need it replaced again later in life since the artificial joints (some parts are made of teflon) do have a certain life span (depending on the joing it's 10-20 years) even without pushing them like an athlete would. It's best to put off joint replacements as long as possible so that you can avoid wearing it out. I have a finger joint that needs replaced from breaking it when I played baseball. I ALREADY had arthritis in it, so the injury just made it worse than it was. It's not too painful now so I'm going to put it off another 20 years if I can stand to, so I won't need it done more than once. I don't know why there is such a kneejerk action to trust this organization who has blatantly cheated themselves before by trying to pin untrue things on Americans just so they can ban them.

07-27-2006, 12:26 PM	#8
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Landis Test Positive for Doping lance would never be that dumb. Lance is the man. Its not like he had to win... or even compete. He has proven himself as being a cycling god. The frenchies are just mad that americans are always winning. I don't believe their fake testing. They tried it last year and they are trying it again. if landis did it, there aren't many people that are more dumb.

07-27-2006, 12:30 PM	#9
gibbsisgod Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 129 W 81st street Age: 45 Posts: 3,503	Re: Landis Test Positive for Doping rumor has it that the bsb is doping. how else could he have reached 4000 so quickly.

07-27-2006, 01:39 PM	#12
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Landis Test Positive for Doping For whatever reason under my motor sports responsibilities at ESPN falls cycling. So yesterday I was talking with his PR people when I found out. All I could think was "of course" He insists it's a mistake but what else would they say? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-27-2006, 01:54 PM	#13
Hail2theskins Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Herndon, VA Age: 39 Posts: 488	Re: Landis Test Positive for Doping see and with all this news of the ridiculous frenchmen, here the skins are about to try one out... (its a joke no need to be offended) __________________ HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!! LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!!!

07-27-2006, 03:25 PM	#14
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: Landis Test Positive for Doping That really sucks! I was really happy for the guy.I hope it's not true. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

07-27-2006, 03:37 PM	#15
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Landis Test Positive for Doping Would any of these guys really be happy with themselves if they won after doping? When it all comes down to it, cycling is an individual sport. So, wouldn't the knowledge that you only beat these other guys because you cheated always be somewhere in the back of your brain? Are they so obsessed with winning at all costs that they don't care if they only won because they cheated? Or maybe they think "well, since everyone else is probably cheating, I'm just leveling the playing field." I've just never understood why someone would cheat in an individual sport. (for some odd reason I can see why people do it in team sports, I can't explain that one) Maybe I'm just naive. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

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