The Giants are ALREADY whining

Paintrain · 05-07-2004, 12:01 PM

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7310267

Some of the NY Giants are already complaining about the toughness of Tom Coughlin.. Add that to the complaining by the veterans over the release of Collins and that's one less team we have to worry about this year!

Yes, I meant Collins.. I made the change, sorry for the brain fart..

BrudLee · 05-07-2004, 12:04 PM

You mean the release of Collins, don't you? If Strahan is out there, we'd have cut Trotter already to get him.

jsarno · 05-07-2004, 12:09 PM

noooo, they didn't release Strahan did they????? Someone would have scooped him up already if that was the case.
I did hear some rumors from Cowboys fans around here that Collins may be picked up by the Cowboys.

Well, back to the subject...obviously Coughlin is just what the doctor ordered for the Giants then. He is a very good coach,and he will win there. Don't think the Giants will be a pushover, they will not be! We have the toughest division top to bottom.

Skins fan 44 · 05-07-2004, 12:34 PM

I would imagine that he will have to weed out some players. Not that Fassel was soft but I am sure the veterans dont wont to put up with a new coach that demands that much. Unless his name is Gibbs.

jsarno · 05-07-2004, 12:40 PM

not sure even certain vets would put up with Gibbs...of course they don't have to let the door hit them on the ass on the way out either.

JoeRedskin · 05-07-2004, 02:03 PM

I have said it and I will keep saying it. The Giants are going to be a horrible team this year. I don't think they have the talent to match anyone in the division (not even Dallas) and Coughlin's imposition of "old school" discipline is going to be such a shock to the players system that a significant group are simply going to crumble and not care. Those that do buy into Coughling will be undercut by those that don't.

This team has had its divisiveness issues in the past and Coughlin's hard line style is just going to exacerbate that tendency and cause either an implosion of players not caring or an explosion of players who are just playing for themselves.

redwagonskins · 05-07-2004, 02:19 PM

An the Chargers get their first round pick so they won't be signing any significant impact guys next year.

offiss · 05-07-2004, 02:58 PM

I called thier downfall last year, and this year thier problem is much worse, still no pass blocking and now a rookie QB, it's nice to be a skin's fan living in NJ these day's! :headbange

Carnage · 05-07-2004, 04:24 PM

What a bunch of wussies. If I were a Giant veteran I would suck it up. This team has tons of talent, they just need to execute, (and OL help)

BleedBurgundy · 05-07-2004, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnage

What a bunch of wussies. If I were a Giant veteran I would suck it up. This team has tons of talent, they just need to execute, (and OL help)

Getting their asses kicked around by Coughlin is (regrettably) just what the doctor ordered for these pansies. For our sakes, I hope they don't fall in line though.

azskinsfan2 · 05-08-2004, 09:52 PM

Sounds like they need LT to come back and smack some of these babies in the head!!!!
I hope the little wussies fall apart too!!! In any case the NFC East will be a battle with Coach Gibbs back!!!!

daddio3 · 05-08-2004, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

He is a very good coach,and he will win there. Don't think the Giants will be a pushover, they will not be! We have the toughest division top to bottom.

Eventually, yes. But this year the Giants are going to be about as effective as a chipmunk with a meat cleaver: they get your attention, but they're not very good butchers.

SKINSnCANES · 05-09-2004, 03:14 AM

this sucks, the Giants are going to end up with a top pick in next years draft and then they will get another impact player. The Giants had one of the best teams on paper last year but everyone got injured....oh wait, what am i saying, they dont have their pick next year and they wasted their pick this year on a cry baby!!!

hi-jinx · 05-09-2004, 04:13 AM

They are looking at a long road, I dont know what their cap space looks like for next year, but they just don;t look good on either side of the ball. If they get 5 wins it will surprise me.

BrudLee · 05-09-2004, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

this sucks, the Giants are going to end up with a top pick in next years draft and then they will get another impact player. The Giants had one of the best teams on paper last year but everyone got injured....oh wait, what am i saying, they dont have their pick next year and they wasted their pick this year on a cry baby!!!

I'm beginning to side with the Manning's on the San Diego issue. The question isn't the team or it's commitment to winning, it's the fact that if there isn't a turnaround there (and there likely won't be), Schottenheimer will be canned. Then you have a new coach with a new philosophy, which means you wasted a year of development, and likely got the crap kicked out of you in the process. There are no assurances that the new coach will want to use your talents (which I know he would have received before being drafted). In New York, Coughlin will have at least two years to make it work. That may be enough to learn and become the player you think you are capable of.

I still think he's a punk, but there is another side to it.

05-07-2004, 12:01 PM	#1
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	The Giants are ALREADY whining http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7310267 Some of the NY Giants are already complaining about the toughness of Tom Coughlin.. Add that to the complaining by the veterans over the release of Collins and that's one less team we have to worry about this year! Yes, I meant Collins.. I made the change, sorry for the brain fart.. Last edited by Paintrain; 05-07-2004 at 03:31 PM.

05-07-2004, 12:04 PM	#2
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	You mean the release of Collins, don't you? If Strahan is out there, we'd have cut Trotter already to get him. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

05-07-2004, 12:09 PM	#3
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 50 Posts: 9,534	noooo, they didn't release Strahan did they????? Someone would have scooped him up already if that was the case. I did hear some rumors from Cowboys fans around here that Collins may be picked up by the Cowboys. Well, back to the subject...obviously Coughlin is just what the doctor ordered for the Giants then. He is a very good coach,and he will win there. Don't think the Giants will be a pushover, they will not be! We have the toughest division top to bottom. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

05-07-2004, 12:34 PM	#4
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	I would imagine that he will have to weed out some players. Not that Fassel was soft but I am sure the veterans dont wont to put up with a new coach that demands that much. Unless his name is Gibbs. __________________ HTTR!

05-07-2004, 12:40 PM	#5
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 50 Posts: 9,534	not sure even certain vets would put up with Gibbs...of course they don't have to let the door hit them on the ass on the way out either. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

05-07-2004, 02:03 PM	#6
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	I have said it and I will keep saying it. The Giants are going to be a horrible team this year. I don't think they have the talent to match anyone in the division (not even Dallas) and Coughlin's imposition of "old school" discipline is going to be such a shock to the players system that a significant group are simply going to crumble and not care. Those that do buy into Coughling will be undercut by those that don't. This team has had its divisiveness issues in the past and Coughlin's hard line style is just going to exacerbate that tendency and cause either an implosion of players not caring or an explosion of players who are just playing for themselves.

05-07-2004, 02:19 PM	#7
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	An the Chargers get their first round pick so they won't be signing any significant impact guys next year.

05-07-2004, 02:58 PM	#8
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	I called thier downfall last year, and this year thier problem is much worse, still no pass blocking and now a rookie QB, it's nice to be a skin's fan living in NJ these day's! :headbange

05-07-2004, 04:24 PM	#9
Carnage Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 473	What a bunch of wussies. If I were a Giant veteran I would suck it up. This team has tons of talent, they just need to execute, (and OL help)

05-08-2004, 09:52 PM	#11
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 67 Posts: 232	Sounds like they need LT to come back and smack some of these babies in the head!!!! I hope the little wussies fall apart too!!! In any case the NFC East will be a battle with Coach Gibbs back!!!! __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

05-09-2004, 03:14 AM	#13
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	this sucks, the Giants are going to end up with a top pick in next years draft and then they will get another impact player. The Giants had one of the best teams on paper last year but everyone got injured....oh wait, what am i saying, they dont have their pick next year and they wasted their pick this year on a cry baby!!! __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

05-09-2004, 04:13 AM	#14
hi-jinx Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Memphis Age: 49 Posts: 180	They are looking at a long road, I dont know what their cap space looks like for next year, but they just don;t look good on either side of the ball. If they get 5 wins it will surprise me.

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