Out Of These Players Who Will Step Up Ther Game

jasonskin · 05-05-2004, 02:05 PM

What one of these players will do better this year.
1 WR Darnerien McCants
2 WR Taylor Jacods
3 WR James Thrash
4 RB Ladell Betts
5 RB/FB Rock Cartwright
6 OG Derrick Dackery
7 C Cory Raymer
8 DE Renaldo Wynn
9 DE Regan Upshaw
10 DT Jermaine Haley
11 CB Rashad Bauman
12 MLD Kevin Mitchell

SmootSmack · 05-05-2004, 02:11 PM

I think Dockery and Jacobs. Dockery will starting to come around at the end of last season and Jacobs should finally be healthy

SKINSnCANES · 05-05-2004, 02:17 PM

I agree with Smoot, those two are the youngest and didnt prove much last year so they only have room to go up. Jacobs is essentially still a rookie, and Dockery went from being horrible to being decent.

JoeRedskin · 05-05-2004, 03:19 PM

I think it's likely that Jacobs and McCants will step up. Both seem to have caught the eye of Gibbs and JoeCrisp was saying some really good stuff about Taylor after the first minicamp.

As for the rest, God knows - I am pulling for Rock just b/c I think every football team should have someone named "Rock" or "Tank" on the team.

Jamaican'Skin · 05-05-2004, 03:25 PM

Honestly, I think all of them will. With Gibbs, there's no where to go but up.

offiss · 05-05-2004, 03:25 PM

Jacob's, bett's, and haley.

joecrisp · 05-05-2004, 03:43 PM

Definitely McCants, Jacobs and Dockery. Those three figure to be significant contributors to the offensive side of the ball. Dockery should become a nasty Hog under Bugel, and I wouldn't be surprised to see McCants or Jacobs wind up with 1,000 yards receiving in the next year or two. Either one of those guys could supplant Gardner as the #2 wideout by mid-season-- if not sooner.

Hogskin · 05-05-2004, 04:11 PM

McCants and Dockery. Look for McCants to be the #2 WR by week 4, if not at the start of the season. Gibbs loves this guy, and will very quickly tire of Gardner's drops in key situations.

Defensewins · 05-05-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by joecrisp

...McCants or Jacobs wind up with 1,000 yards receiving in the next year or two. Either one of those guys could supplant Gardner as the #2 wideout by mid-season-- if not sooner.

Why is there so much hate for Gardner? Everyone is willing to give Samuels a second chance after two bad seasons. Remember how many times Jansen jumped offsides and at times looked like a rookie last year? Up to now, Ladell Betts and Taylor Jacobs have been a waste of a high draft pick. Dockery did not look good early on and never really looked great.
I think our entire team (except for Champ Bailey) did not play well on a consistent basis. Even L. Coles and P. Ramsey, who came out great, fizzled and sputtered as the year went on.
Most of the blame has to go to S. Spurrier and his system.
Right before Spurriers first year, many football experts were saying Spurriers system does not lend itself to big possesion receivers like Gardner. Why are we suprised he did not look good?
I am willing hold back my dislike for Taylor Jacobs and Ladell Betts. I will give them a second and third chance (respectively) to prove they are not busts, if you folks give Gardner just as much of a fair chance.....

Hogskin · 05-05-2004, 04:17 PM

Joecrisp - just saw YOUR post - looks like we are pretty much on the same page on this one.

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BrudLee · 05-05-2004, 04:44 PM

Since there has been talk of McCants seeing action at H-back in some formations, I'd expect his numbers to get a lot of attention. Dockery may see a lot of action, but until he shows Bugel what he's got, I hesitate to place him up near the top.

Daseal · 05-05-2004, 04:55 PM

Jacobs, Cartright and Wynn I expect to see upped performance out of!

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-05-2004, 04:59 PM

i know i don't have too many problems with gardner, but he has yet to live up to his potential. if he can do that then he will secure his #2 spot, but i see someone moving up and taking it from him possibly as early as the season opener. and while i like mccants, he just doesn't pop out at me as someone who can become a consistent #2 wr. he's an incredible redzone target and maybe a chain mover but not a game breaker. I know we haven't seen much of jacobs yet, but from everything i saw of him in college and in last years training camp, plus the fact he added about 10-15 pounds of muscle in the off season, i think he has a pretty good shot at stealing the #2 spot and i think thrash could be a sleeper pick to put up decent #s since he's back to the more comfortable role of not being the main target.

SmootSmack · 05-05-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

i know i don't have too many problems with gardner, but he has yet to live up to his potential. if he can do that then he will secure his #2 spot, but i see someone moving up and taking it from him possibly as early as the season opener. and while i like mccants, he just doesn't pop out at me as someone who can become a consistent #2 wr. he's an incredible redzone target and maybe a chain mover but not a game breaker. I know we haven't seen much of jacobs yet, but from everything i saw of him in college and in last years training camp, plus the fact he added about 10-15 pounds of muscle in the off season, i think he has a pretty good shot at stealing the #2 spot and i think thrash could be a sleeper pick to put up decent #s since he's back to the more comfortable role of not being the main target.

I think that's pretty much a dead-on assessment. Though I think Gardner isn't going to give up that #2 spot without a fight

squrrelco3 · 05-05-2004, 05:39 PM

I think Gardner will step it up...he's done a good job keeping his mouth shut over the past few years and just rolling with the punches...he's taken alot of heat, some of it unjustified, and he's been a very quite, show up to work, "lunchpail" player...Gibbs likes people like that and I think some of the flak he's taken will light a fire under him to get him going...he'll work well in the Joe Gibbs system.

05-05-2004, 02:05 PM	#1
jasonskin Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: washington dc Age: 42 Posts: 148	Out Of These Players Who Will Step Up Ther Game What one of these players will do better this year. 1 WR Darnerien McCants 2 WR Taylor Jacods 3 WR James Thrash 4 RB Ladell Betts 5 RB/FB Rock Cartwright 6 OG Derrick Dackery 7 C Cory Raymer 8 DE Renaldo Wynn 9 DE Regan Upshaw 10 DT Jermaine Haley 11 CB Rashad Bauman 12 MLD Kevin Mitchell

05-05-2004, 02:17 PM	#3
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,453	I agree with Smoot, those two are the youngest and didnt prove much last year so they only have room to go up. Jacobs is essentially still a rookie, and Dockery went from being horrible to being decent. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

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BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Since there has been talk of McCants seeing action at H-back in some formations, I'd expect his numbers to get a lot of attention. Dockery may see a lot of action, but until he shows Bugel what he's got, I hesitate to place him up near the top. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

05-05-2004, 02:11 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I think Dockery and Jacobs. Dockery will starting to come around at the end of last season and Jacobs should finally be healthy __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-05-2004, 03:19 PM	#4
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 61 Posts: 10,401	I think it's likely that Jacobs and McCants will step up. Both seem to have caught the eye of Gibbs and JoeCrisp was saying some really good stuff about Taylor after the first minicamp. As for the rest, God knows - I am pulling for Rock just b/c I think every football team should have someone named "Rock" or "Tank" on the team.

05-05-2004, 03:25 PM	#5
Jamaican'Skin The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kingston, Jamaica Age: 37 Posts: 2,418	Honestly, I think all of them will. With Gibbs, there's no where to go but up.

05-05-2004, 03:25 PM	#6
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Jacob's, bett's, and haley.

05-05-2004, 03:43 PM	#7
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	Definitely McCants, Jacobs and Dockery. Those three figure to be significant contributors to the offensive side of the ball. Dockery should become a nasty Hog under Bugel, and I wouldn't be surprised to see McCants or Jacobs wind up with 1,000 yards receiving in the next year or two. Either one of those guys could supplant Gardner as the #2 wideout by mid-season-- if not sooner.

05-05-2004, 04:11 PM	#8
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 83 Posts: 659	McCants and Dockery. Look for McCants to be the #2 WR by week 4, if not at the start of the season. Gibbs loves this guy, and will very quickly tire of Gardner's drops in key situations.

05-05-2004, 04:17 PM	#10
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 83 Posts: 659	Joecrisp - just saw YOUR post - looks like we are pretty much on the same page on this one. John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The Best Game In Town."

05-05-2004, 04:55 PM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Jacobs, Cartright and Wynn I expect to see upped performance out of!

05-05-2004, 04:59 PM	#13
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,812	i know i don't have too many problems with gardner, but he has yet to live up to his potential. if he can do that then he will secure his #2 spot, but i see someone moving up and taking it from him possibly as early as the season opener. and while i like mccants, he just doesn't pop out at me as someone who can become a consistent #2 wr. he's an incredible redzone target and maybe a chain mover but not a game breaker. I know we haven't seen much of jacobs yet, but from everything i saw of him in college and in last years training camp, plus the fact he added about 10-15 pounds of muscle in the off season, i think he has a pretty good shot at stealing the #2 spot and i think thrash could be a sleeper pick to put up decent #s since he's back to the more comfortable role of not being the main target.

05-05-2004, 05:39 PM	#15
squrrelco3 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Norfolk Age: 48 Posts: 429	I think Gardner will step it up...he's done a good job keeping his mouth shut over the past few years and just rolling with the punches...he's taken alot of heat, some of it unjustified, and he's been a very quite, show up to work, "lunchpail" player...Gibbs likes people like that and I think some of the flak he's taken will light a fire under him to get him going...he'll work well in the Joe Gibbs system.

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