Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done

Paintrain · 03-10-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Today's NY Daily News

March 10, 2006 -- The Jets, hell-bent on repairing their crippled quarterback situation, are acting quickly on Patrick Ramsey - so quickly that the former No. 1 draft pick out of Tulane could join Chad Pennington and Co. within days.

Two sources familiar with the goings on between the Jets and Redskins, told The Post last night that the Jets and Jimmy Sexton, the agent for the Washington backup quarterback, have been actively working on the parameters for a trade that would bring Ramsey to New York.

Word is the Jets would give the Redskins a fifth-round draft pick in next month's NFL draft as well as a possible conditional pick in the 2007 draft, depending on how much and how well Ramsey plays.

That pick, according to one of the sources, could be as high as a third-round pick should Ramsey start a certain number of games and perform to a certain level.

Ramsey, who has one year left on his contract worth $1.69 million, is Redskins' property, but they have no interest in retaining him. Washington initially had been seeking a second-round pick for him before realizing it had little leverage.

Initial reports had Ramsey, who was given permission by the Redskins to reach out to other teams and seek a trade, also visiting Detroit and Miami, but the sources said there are no plans for any other visits at the moment, further indicating that he's close to consummating a deal with the Jets.

Ramsey, 27, has been underwhelming in his NFL career, twice losing his starting job in Washington and compiling a 10-14 record as a starter. He's completed 480 of 861 passes for 5,649 yards with 34 TDs, 29 INTs and a 75.0 rating.

When asked about Ramsey, one highly placed NFC GM told The Post he didn't think Ramsey would be a good fit in New York.

"I hope he doesn't go there," the GM said. "He's a great kid, but he wants to please so much that when he doesn't it really bothers him. He doesn't have the temperament to play there. You've got to be thick-skinned to play in New York. He'll be eaten [alive] up there."

It'd be nice to get a pick this year and another in '07 for him.. Wish him great success in NY, especially if it leads to a better pick down the line!

56FAN · 03-10-2006, 09:01 AM

If a 5th is all you can get, keep him. a 5th rounder is a give away pick.

12thMan · 03-10-2006, 09:08 AM

Don't discount the conditional pick though. If Ramsey steps up, the pot get's sweeter.

MTK · 03-10-2006, 09:13 AM

A 5th and a possible 3rd... I'll take it.

Peace out PR.

Schneed10 · 03-10-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 56FAN

If a 5th is all you can get, keep him. a 5th rounder is a give away pick.

Disagreed. You don't keep players that don't want to be Redskins. You honor their wishes because A) it sends a message to the rest of the team that you will be treated with respect by the coaching staff/front office and B) it helps keep the locker room free of malcontents (not that Ramsey would bitch and moan, but it's one less elephant in the middle of the locker room).

I think you take what you can get, and a 5th rounder and a conditional pick next year is fair enough for me.

I think since Skins seem to be stockpiling picks in the later rounds, they're going to have some trade ammo to slide up in the draft when they see a player they really like. Especially once we add any compensatory picks for Smoot & Pierce.

MTK · 03-10-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Disagreed. You don't keep players that don't want to be Redskins. You honor their wishes because A) it sends a message to the rest of the team that you will be treated with respect by the coaching staff/front office and B) it helps keep the locker room free of malcontents (not that Ramsey would bitch and moan, but it's one less elephant in the middle of the locker room).

I think you take what you can get, and a 5th rounder and a conditional pick next year is fair enough for me.

I think since Skins seem to be stockpiling picks in the later rounds, they're going to have some trade ammo to slide up in the draft when they see a player they really like. Especially once we add any compensatory picks for Smoot & Pierce.

Agreed.

People are seriously high if they think we can get a 2nd or even a 3rd round pick for him.

Teams have known since Gibbs came back that Ramsey's time in D.C. was limited. Trades are a tough thing in the NFL and teams rarely get fair value because they know if they wait, that player will likely hit the waiver wire.

At this point you cut your losses and move on. Please don't mention that the Dolphins gave up a 2nd rounder for Feeley, because that was an exception to the rule. Just because the Dolphins made a retarded move doesn't mean the rest of the league is lining up to make a similar mistake.

PWNED · 03-10-2006, 09:28 AM

herschel walker anyone?

freddyg12 · 03-10-2006, 09:36 AM

In recent years we've seen some great players traded for little. I thought the vikings let moss go for way too little. Especially when teams know he's only got a year left & he'll be released, & as Matty pointed out, they all know pr's time is limited here. Also, the market is flooded w/qb's now & pr isn't high on that list.
I was just hoping that if we could work out a deal, get abraham, but maybe his price is too high.

dgack · 03-10-2006, 09:36 AM

A 5th rounder and a conditional '07 pick are more than we'd get for Ramsey when we're forced to release him.

If he goes to the Jets and lights it up, it helps us and can't hurt us. If he goes to the Jets and stinks it up, we got more out of the deal than simply releasing him.

This is a win for the Skins.

Sammy Baugh Fan · 03-10-2006, 09:37 AM

Good luck PR.
The dewd did give his back to the team a couple years like a trooper.

Like mattyk said
peace out PR

ArtMonkDrillz · 03-10-2006, 10:06 AM

Who wants to buy my Ramsey and Coles jerseys? Looks like they're gonna be team mates again, could be fun. (damnit)

FRPLG · 03-10-2006, 10:09 AM

Take it and like it. He is not staying under just about any circumstance. Might as well take what you can get especially if there is a shot at a day one pick coming.

wilsowilso · 03-10-2006, 10:09 AM

What's with us and the New York Jets? I think Snyder has a "Bat Phone" at Redskins Park that has a direct line to the GM of the Jets. Well anyways after we came out way on top after the Moss and Coles trade I think we need to be nice to the Jets this year so we have to give up Ramsey for good value for them in my opinion. I really think he could be one of those QB's who gets better and better with age. Hope Ramsey kicks ass in the AFC!

Twilbert07 · 03-10-2006, 10:10 AM

I like Patrick Ramsey, but he has yet to prove that he can win consistently in the NFL. I know he wasn't given much of a chance to do so last year (less than a quarter of play), but his time has come and gone in Ole D.C.

redsk1 · 03-10-2006, 10:14 AM

A 5th rounder-take it. If he is not going to play and he's not, let's take it. Its time for JC to be the back up.

03-10-2006, 09:01 AM	#2
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 62 Posts: 323	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done If a 5th is all you can get, keep him. a 5th rounder is a give away pick.

03-10-2006, 09:08 AM	#3
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done Don't discount the conditional pick though. If Ramsey steps up, the pot get's sweeter.

03-10-2006, 09:13 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done A 5th and a possible 3rd... I'll take it. Peace out PR. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-10-2006, 09:28 AM	#7
PWNED The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ZOMGZZZ!!111 Age: 32 Posts: 1,160	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done herschel walker anyone? __________________ 143 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal.

03-10-2006, 09:36 AM	#8
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done In recent years we've seen some great players traded for little. I thought the vikings let moss go for way too little. Especially when teams know he's only got a year left & he'll be released, & as Matty pointed out, they all know pr's time is limited here. Also, the market is flooded w/qb's now & pr isn't high on that list. I was just hoping that if we could work out a deal, get abraham, but maybe his price is too high.

03-10-2006, 09:36 AM	#9
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done A 5th rounder and a conditional '07 pick are more than we'd get for Ramsey when we're forced to release him. If he goes to the Jets and lights it up, it helps us and can't hurt us. If he goes to the Jets and stinks it up, we got more out of the deal than simply releasing him. This is a win for the Skins.

03-10-2006, 09:37 AM	#10
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 62 Posts: 2,507	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done Good luck PR. The dewd did give his back to the team a couple years like a trooper. Like mattyk said peace out PR __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

03-10-2006, 10:06 AM	#11
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done Who wants to buy my Ramsey and Coles jerseys? Looks like they're gonna be team mates again, could be fun. (damnit) __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

03-10-2006, 10:09 AM	#12
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done Take it and like it. He is not staying under just about any circumstance. Might as well take what you can get especially if there is a shot at a day one pick coming.

03-10-2006, 10:09 AM	#13
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done What's with us and the New York Jets? I think Snyder has a "Bat Phone" at Redskins Park that has a direct line to the GM of the Jets. Well anyways after we came out way on top after the Moss and Coles trade I think we need to be nice to the Jets this year so we have to give up Ramsey for good value for them in my opinion. I really think he could be one of those QB's who gets better and better with age. Hope Ramsey kicks ass in the AFC!

03-10-2006, 10:10 AM	#14
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 59 Posts: 594	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done I like Patrick Ramsey, but he has yet to prove that he can win consistently in the NFL. I know he wasn't given much of a chance to do so last year (less than a quarter of play), but his time has come and gone in Ole D.C. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

03-10-2006, 10:14 AM	#15
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Ramsey to the Jets Nearly Done A 5th rounder-take it. If he is not going to play and he's not, let's take it. Its time for JC to be the back up.

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