Brentson Buckner

jdlea · 03-07-2006, 12:08 PM

I know he's old and he has some injury issues, but if he doesn't want a ton of money I think the Skins should take a long look at Brentson Buckner. I like the way he plays the game, his personality and I heard he was leader for the Panthers. If he could stay healthy I think that putting him in with Griffin and adding 1 DE that can actually rush the passer would make this defensive line scary. Also, if he doesn't work out and doesn't cost much we already know we have Salave'a who is serviceable at DT. However, I don't think the Skins should be content with him as a starter, I think bringing in Buckner would give us just another option on the line and could end up being huge if he can return to form.

SmootSmack · 03-07-2006, 12:09 PM

Lots of talent, but I heard that his teammates didn't like him in Carolina. Plus I think I read he's considering retirement. Although for the right price anyone will un-retire.

jdlea · 03-07-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Lots of talent, but I heard that his teammates didn't like him in Carolina.

Really? I didn't know that. I'm not trying to be sarcastic here, cause I really didn't.

On FSN South, while I was home, they were talking like he was a leader for the Panthers.

SmootSmack · 03-07-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

Really? I didn't know that. I'm not trying to be sarcastic here, cause I really didn't.

On FSN South, while I was home, they were talking like he was a leader for the Panthers.

Let me see if I can find some link

jdlea · 03-07-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by John Fox

"Brentson was here when I arrived in 2002 and was an outstanding leader as well as player for us," Fox said. "He set a great example for our younger players in his preparation and will be missed."

http://www.panthers.com/news/newsroo...l.jsp?id=23706

Granted this is from panthers.com, so what were they gonna do...trash the guy? However, this is why I thought he was a leader on the team.

Schneed10 · 03-07-2006, 12:31 PM

I love Salavea'a, I don't think he gets anywhere close to the credit he deserves. The guy is as strong as an ox and cannot be moved. He plays as if he's 350 pounds, which is exactly what you need for run defense. If we don't stop the run, we don't end up in many 2nd & long or 3rd & long situations. And if we don't have those situations, we can't blitz nearly as much. Our entire D starts with the corners and the run-stopping D line, and Salavea'a is a HUGE part of that. I wouldn't take Salavea'a out for the world.

Redskins_P · 03-07-2006, 12:33 PM

Salave'a is the man. I'm happy with him and Griffin. I would rather get a pass rushing DE.

RobH4413 · 03-07-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Lots of talent, but I heard that his teammates didn't like him in Carolina. Plus I think I read he's considering retirement. Although for the right price anyone will un-retire.

"Anytime you decide to part ways with a player like Brentson, it's very hard," Hurney said. "He's been a flag carrier for us in the locker room and a terrific player. We'll miss his leadership, his preparation and his play."

from the link earlier.... seems like a solid guy. I know the panthers.com article isn't the bible but it atleast sheds some light.

jdlea · 03-07-2006, 12:39 PM

Last year was Salave'a's best season his stats:
32 tackles, 1 sack

Buckner last year:
36 tackles, 1 sack

Buckner's best year:
55 tackles, 7 sacks, but that was back in 2000

More recently:
2004:
41 tackles, 4 sacks

That said, I just saw Buckner's birthday. I didn't realize he was about to turn 35. I thought he was more like 31 or 32. I still think that bringing him in to add him to the rotation wouldn't be bad, but now I don't think it's as good of an idea when I made this thread.

skins009 · 03-07-2006, 12:49 PM

The best DT available is Rockery Bernard from the Seahawks. He is a great interior pass rusher, which is exactly what we need. Big Joe and Grif Stuffing the run on 1st and 2nd down and then Bernard coming in on 3rd. He would also give us a good 3 man DT rotation which will make everyone play better.

STPainmaker · 03-07-2006, 12:53 PM

What about Ted Washington. I know he's ginormous but can he still ball. Didn't G W have him in Buffalo.

shallyshal · 03-07-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I know he's old and he has some injury issues, but if he doesn't want a ton of money I think the Skins should take a long look at Brentson Buckner. I like the way he plays the game, his personality and I heard he was leader for the Panthers. If he could stay healthy I think that putting him in with Griffin and adding 1 DE that can actually rush the passer would make this defensive line scary. Also, if he doesn't work out and doesn't cost much we already know we have Salave'a who is serviceable at DT. However, I don't think the Skins should be content with him as a starter, I think bringing in Buckner would give us just another option on the line and could end up being huge if he can return to form.

he is a good player for a year or 2... but the skins need some youth onthe d line or else they will get old in a hurry. guys like n clemons, boschetti, evans, aki jones and killings are no sure things. we need young athletic def players for the line

RobH4413 · 03-07-2006, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by skins009

The best DT available is Rockery Bernard from the Seahawks. He is a great interior pass rusher, which is exactly what we need. Big Joe and Grif Stuffing the run on 1st and 2nd down and then Bernard coming in on 3rd. He would also give us a good 3 man DT rotation which will make everyone play better.

the only DT shopping we need is for depth. Remember every RB getting stuffed last season. Does anyone have a statistic for how many deflected passes our D-Line produced? Salvae was a beast and Griffin should have gone to the pro-bowl. What we really need to do is replace Wynn @ DE.

BigSKINBauer · 03-07-2006, 01:07 PM

JOe salavea is a true redskins and I am perfectly happy with him at the line. Our line is a unit unlike many lines. The last 5 games of the year they were amazing because there were not 4 individuals but 1 unit. Everyone had their hands up when the ball was thrown. Everyone was working together to get to the QB. Salavea is the man and I wouldn't wasst money to bring in a number one over there. I like renaldo too but i think it is obvious that that position has to be upgraded. One strong DE and we will be absolutly amazing. I always thought they would put LA in a more DE type role but they didn't seem to.

STPainmaker · 03-07-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

the only DT shopping we need is for depth. Remember every RB getting stuffed last season. Does anyone have a statistic for how many deflected passes our D-Line produced? Salvae was a beast and Griffin should have gone to the pro-bowl. What we really need to do is replace Wynn @ DE.

Well said.

03-07-2006, 12:08 PM	#1
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Brentson Buckner I know he's old and he has some injury issues, but if he doesn't want a ton of money I think the Skins should take a long look at Brentson Buckner. I like the way he plays the game, his personality and I heard he was leader for the Panthers. If he could stay healthy I think that putting him in with Griffin and adding 1 DE that can actually rush the passer would make this defensive line scary. Also, if he doesn't work out and doesn't cost much we already know we have Salave'a who is serviceable at DT. However, I don't think the Skins should be content with him as a starter, I think bringing in Buckner would give us just another option on the line and could end up being huge if he can return to form.

03-07-2006, 12:09 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Brentson Buckner Lots of talent, but I heard that his teammates didn't like him in Carolina. Plus I think I read he's considering retirement. Although for the right price anyone will un-retire. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-07-2006, 12:31 PM	#6
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Brentson Buckner I love Salavea'a, I don't think he gets anywhere close to the credit he deserves. The guy is as strong as an ox and cannot be moved. He plays as if he's 350 pounds, which is exactly what you need for run defense. If we don't stop the run, we don't end up in many 2nd & long or 3rd & long situations. And if we don't have those situations, we can't blitz nearly as much. Our entire D starts with the corners and the run-stopping D line, and Salavea'a is a HUGE part of that. I wouldn't take Salavea'a out for the world. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-07-2006, 12:33 PM	#7
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Brentson Buckner Salave'a is the man. I'm happy with him and Griffin. I would rather get a pass rushing DE.

03-07-2006, 12:39 PM	#9
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: Brentson Buckner Last year was Salave'a's best season his stats: 32 tackles, 1 sack Buckner last year: 36 tackles, 1 sack Buckner's best year: 55 tackles, 7 sacks, but that was back in 2000 More recently: 2004: 41 tackles, 4 sacks That said, I just saw Buckner's birthday. I didn't realize he was about to turn 35. I thought he was more like 31 or 32. I still think that bringing him in to add him to the rotation wouldn't be bad, but now I don't think it's as good of an idea when I made this thread.

03-07-2006, 12:49 PM	#10
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	Re: Brentson Buckner The best DT available is Rockery Bernard from the Seahawks. He is a great interior pass rusher, which is exactly what we need. Big Joe and Grif Stuffing the run on 1st and 2nd down and then Bernard coming in on 3rd. He would also give us a good 3 man DT rotation which will make everyone play better.

03-07-2006, 12:53 PM	#11
STPainmaker Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 524	Re: Brentson Buckner What about Ted Washington. I know he's ginormous but can he still ball. Didn't G W have him in Buffalo. __________________ REDSKINS FOR LIFE BEEETCH!!!!

03-07-2006, 01:07 PM	#14
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Brentson Buckner JOe salavea is a true redskins and I am perfectly happy with him at the line. Our line is a unit unlike many lines. The last 5 games of the year they were amazing because there were not 4 individuals but 1 unit. Everyone had their hands up when the ball was thrown. Everyone was working together to get to the QB. Salavea is the man and I wouldn't wasst money to bring in a number one over there. I like renaldo too but i think it is obvious that that position has to be upgraded. One strong DE and we will be absolutly amazing. I always thought they would put LA in a more DE type role but they didn't seem to.

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