Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN

jamf · 03-02-2006, 03:05 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351462

BTW, I dont give a rats ass if its "Being discussed in another thread".

irish · 03-02-2006, 03:13 PM

The next to last question has an interesting answer, in 2008, no more draft. Players will come out of college as free agents and sign wherever they can.

skindogger47 · 03-02-2006, 03:32 PM

This shit is insane. I can't believe what a piece of shit Gene Upshaw is. He's going to decertify the players' union? For what? 1% of the revenue sharing. The players are going to be hating it, although look for people to come to the Redskins cause you know Danny is going to take care of his boys. This still sucks though, the NFL is about to drastically change.

BigSKINBauer · 03-02-2006, 03:57 PM

on espn they were talking about what would happen if somone went over the cap. The analyst laughed and said there was talk that the skins would basically be like **** it. We're going to keep our players and we don't care. He said there would be fines and draft penalties. He then said that snyder could pay all the fines and the skins can't even sign draft picks if they are over the cap so it makes no difference...

That Guy · 03-02-2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

on espn they were talking about what would happen if somone went over the cap. The analyst laughed and said there was talk that the skins would basically be like **** it. We're going to keep our players and we don't care. He said there would be fines and draft penalties. He then said that snyder could pay all the fines and the skins can't even sign draft picks if they are over the cap so it makes no difference...

wouldn't we get DQ'd in every game if we were over at kickoff?

RiggoRules · 03-02-2006, 04:01 PM

Here was the most amazing quote in that article:

Quote:

What happens if a team doesn't comply with the salary cap?
No team has ever gone over the salary cap, so this is a bit of an unknown. Could Commissioner Paul Tagliabue penalize a team by taking away draft picks? Or could there be fines? With some teams in dire cap shape, we could find out sooner rather than later. The Washington Redskins are one team to watch in this regard, since some other clubs which have studied the Redskins' cap closely have suggested Washington cannot mathematically get into compliance.

The big question is, can they renegotiate enough deals to get in compliance. The real doomsday scenario is if they can't. With only six hours left, we'll see. Because of the special 2006 rules, it is not that easy to do -- even with willing players. The best scenario possible is if they find a way to renegotiate enough deals to actually put them under the cap for 2K6 far enough that they will be able to be players in the FA market.

jdlea · 03-02-2006, 04:06 PM

I don't really understand what happens if a team does stay over the cap. I guess they would be forced to forfeit games, that would make sense. What if they let em play over the cap, though? I have no idea what's going on...

CRT3 · 03-02-2006, 04:08 PM

This is exactly why I have said that the Redskins are in actually pretty good position as opposed to the many who have said that we would be in trouble. Look they will renegotiate the bonuses for 4 years to extend the cap number. Cut the players who are due big money and who are not a vital cog in the wheel.

Also this section from ESPN is significant to us.
How does all of this affect the 2006 NFL draft?
Signing draft choices will be more difficult this year, because teams can prorate signing bonuses over only four seasons. Already, agents figure the most a top draft choice can make under that scenario is $15 million, a major reduction from recent years. That likely will lead to long holdouts by draft choices.

Since we have positioned ourselves with few draft choices we are at an advantage as compared to others. Also in the uncapped year who else is going to out spend the Dan.

Southpaw · 03-02-2006, 04:08 PM

Quote:

What happens if a team doesn't comply with the salary cap?
No team has ever gone over the salary cap, so this is a bit of an unknown. Could Commissioner Paul Tagliabue penalize a team by taking away draft picks? Or could there be fines? With some teams in dire cap shape, we could find out sooner rather than later. The Washington Redskins are one team to watch in this regard, since some other clubs which have studied the Redskins' cap closely have suggested Washington cannot mathematically get into compliance.

I just love Daniel Snyder. He does everything he can to help this team win. I don't understand how anyone can not like this man...

If crippling the cap, and possibly the draft helps Washington win, they'll be Superbowl champions next season.

Southpaw · 03-02-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CRT3

Cut the players who are due big money and who are not a vital cog in the wheel.

That's part of the problem. A lot of analysts are saying that cutting big money people will actually cost more towards the cap. The only real option is to restructure a ton of deals.

That Guy · 03-02-2006, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdlea

I don't really understand what happens if a team does stay over the cap. I guess they would be forced to forfeit games, that would make sense. What if they let em play over the cap, though? I have no idea what's going on...

its never happened... its like the movie where the russian sub officers open the secret black box for instructionss in case of a core meltdown on there ship... only to find a piece of paper saying that the manual has yet to be written.

jdlea · 03-02-2006, 04:14 PM

Yeah, Arrington costs more to cut than keep. It actually costs us 600k more to cut him. We really need people to restructure, but it's getting late in the day, so we might see what happens if a team stays over the cap.

There is a line in that article on ESPN that says that other teams have studied our cap and don't think it's mathematically possible to get under the cap. I guess if we get a bunch of restructuring done we'll be okay, but like I said, it's getting late.

That Guy · 03-02-2006, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

Here was the most amazing quote in that article:

The big question is, can they renegotiate enough deals to get in compliance. The real doomsday scenario is if they can't. With only six hours left, we'll see. Because of the special 2006 rules, it is not that easy to do -- even with willing players. The best scenario possible is if they find a way to renegotiate enough deals to actually put them under the cap for 2K6 far enough that they will be able to be players in the FA market.

there's no way. if we cut everybody but the 13 that are cheaper to keep, we'd have 34 rookies and a 47 man team. no way we can even make enough back to pay draft picks and keep half the current players, much less go out and sign people.

dmek25 · 03-02-2006, 04:15 PM

crt makes it sound pretty simple.maybe cerrato gets fired and crt takes over the cap issues for the skins

That Guy · 03-02-2006, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRT3

Cut the players who are due big money and who are not a vital cog in the wheel.

the problem is we fall short and have 6-7mill left to cut with a list of players to choose from like:
jansen 800k
samuels 300k
washington 500k

etc. hence the importance of restructuring a LOT of money.

03-02-2006, 03:05 PM	#1
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,325	Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351462 BTW, I dont give a rats ass if its "Being discussed in another thread".

03-02-2006, 03:13 PM	#2
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN The next to last question has an interesting answer, in 2008, no more draft. Players will come out of college as free agents and sign wherever they can.

03-02-2006, 03:32 PM	#3
skindogger47 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 43 Posts: 262	Re: Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN This shit is insane. I can't believe what a piece of shit Gene Upshaw is. He's going to decertify the players' union? For what? 1% of the revenue sharing. The players are going to be hating it, although look for people to come to the Redskins cause you know Danny is going to take care of his boys. This still sucks though, the NFL is about to drastically change.

03-02-2006, 03:57 PM	#4
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 36 Posts: 5,688	Re: Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN on espn they were talking about what would happen if somone went over the cap. The analyst laughed and said there was talk that the skins would basically be like **** it. We're going to keep our players and we don't care. He said there would be fines and draft penalties. He then said that snyder could pay all the fines and the skins can't even sign draft picks if they are over the cap so it makes no difference...

03-02-2006, 04:06 PM	#7
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN I don't really understand what happens if a team does stay over the cap. I guess they would be forced to forfeit games, that would make sense. What if they let em play over the cap, though? I have no idea what's going on...

03-02-2006, 04:08 PM	#8
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	Re: Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN This is exactly why I have said that the Redskins are in actually pretty good position as opposed to the many who have said that we would be in trouble. Look they will renegotiate the bonuses for 4 years to extend the cap number. Cut the players who are due big money and who are not a vital cog in the wheel. Also this section from ESPN is significant to us. How does all of this affect the 2006 NFL draft? Signing draft choices will be more difficult this year, because teams can prorate signing bonuses over only four seasons. Already, agents figure the most a top draft choice can make under that scenario is $15 million, a major reduction from recent years. That likely will lead to long holdouts by draft choices. Since we have positioned ourselves with few draft choices we are at an advantage as compared to others. Also in the uncapped year who else is going to out spend the Dan. __________________ 16-0 for 2007

03-02-2006, 04:14 PM	#12
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN Yeah, Arrington costs more to cut than keep. It actually costs us 600k more to cut him. We really need people to restructure, but it's getting late in the day, so we might see what happens if a team stays over the cap. There is a line in that article on ESPN that says that other teams have studied our cap and don't think it's mathematically possible to get under the cap. I guess if we get a bunch of restructuring done we'll be okay, but like I said, it's getting late.

03-02-2006, 04:15 PM	#14
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Some basic answers about the CBA from ESPN crt makes it sound pretty simple.maybe cerrato gets fired and crt takes over the cap issues for the skins __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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