Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio

Beemnseven · 01-30-2006, 02:41 PM

Subject-- Why King won't vote Art Monk into the Hall of Fame

On the Dan Patrick show right now!

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-30-2006, 02:42 PM

Can I listen online?

MTK · 01-30-2006, 02:45 PM

Damn... wish I could hear this, we really need a detailed recap!

cpayne5 · 01-30-2006, 02:47 PM

http://www.espnradio.com

cpayne5 · 01-30-2006, 02:49 PM

I'm recording it now. Will post it when its over.

cpayne5 · 01-30-2006, 02:58 PM

Up in 3 mins.

cpayne5 · 01-30-2006, 03:00 PM

http://www.skinsfan.us/redskins/pKingOnMonk.mp3
~4.5megs

celts32 · 01-30-2006, 03:23 PM

That was a dud interview. Dan P never challenged him on anything. peter just said that he doesn't wield power with other voters like Joe T said he does and that was the end of it.

Peter called Monk a local argument and implied the the football world as a whole does not care that MOnk is not in.

MTK · 01-30-2006, 03:25 PM

All of my friends who know anything about football are just as puzzled as I am over the fact that Monk isn't in.

offiss · 01-30-2006, 03:25 PM

This guy is such a hypocrite, he's not voting for Monk because no one outside of DC cares? Yet he pushes for Harry Carson? As if anyone outside of NY can remember the guys name.

It's funny how he backs Curtis martin and say's that he hopes that his anonimity doesn't hurt him on the ballot, sounds a lot like Monk doesn't it.

Russ Grimm over Monk? We all love Russ but lets be real. Monk held all time NFL records, most catches in a season, most consecutive games with a catch, and the all time leader with receptions, ALL TIME!!!!!!

Obviously there is something else there, Monk should have been a first ballot no brainer, and that's why I don't put a lot of stock in popularity contests, such as the pro-bowl and the hall of fame, are they truly about talent? Or just a matter of being one of the boy's?

irish · 01-30-2006, 03:26 PM

I'm sure nobody besides redskins fans care whether or not AM is in the HOF.

I"m not surprised the interview was a dud, the DP show itself is a dud. It just not worth listening to anymore.

12thMan · 01-30-2006, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offiss

This guy is such a hypocrite, he's not voting for Monk because no one outside of DC cares? Yet he pushes for Harry Carson? As if anyone outside of NY can remember the guys name.

It's funny how he backs Curtis martin and say's that he hopes that his anonimity doesn't hurt him on the ballot, sounds a lot like Monk doesn't it.

Russ Grimm over Monk? We all love Russ but lets be real. Monk held all time NFL records, most catches in a season, most consecutive games with a catch, and the all time leader with receptions, ALL TIME!!!!!!

Obviously there is something else there, Monk should have been a first ballot no brainer, and that's why I don't put a lot of stock in popularity contests, such as the pro-bowl and the hall of fame, are they truly about talent? Or just a matter of being one of the boy's?

Dude, for the first time in a while I totally agree with you.

Good post.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-30-2006, 03:31 PM

I've already said to Gmanc and cpayne over IM that sports writers shouldn't hold so much weight in the voting system. It should be up to a number of groups, specifically players, coaches and MOST IMPORTANTLY fans. Just because you write about sports what gives you the authority to or not to immortalize a deserving player?

dmek25 · 01-30-2006, 03:31 PM

does anyone know the reasoning behind monk not getting in?his stats support him to the hall

Beemnseven · 01-30-2006, 03:40 PM

In a nutshell for those that missed it...

Theismann says that Peter King has so much influence among Hall of Fame voters, that since he won't vote Art Monk in, nobody else will either.

Peter King replies --

1. He doesn't have the influence Theismann thinks he does.

2. He's not saying he'll never vote Art Monk in, and that he does keep an open mind on the subject. He admits that there's a compelling argument that Monk should be in, but he'd put Russ Grimm in before Monk. Says that if someone tells him something about Monk that he hasn't heard before, he'll consider it.

3. He's not hearing from opponents and others throughtout the league and other cities that Monk deserves to be in -- it's only from former teammates of Monk, and those in circles around Washington D.C.

There you have it ... and like you've read from other posts, they're right, it wasn't much of an interview. No challenges from Dan Patrick, nothing about the disparity in numbers comparing Art Monk to say, Lynn Swann. Nothing. Pretty lame.

01-30-2006, 02:41 PM	#1
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio Subject-- Why King won't vote Art Monk into the Hall of Fame On the Dan Patrick show right now!

01-30-2006, 02:42 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio Can I listen online? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-30-2006, 02:45 PM	#3
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01-30-2006, 03:23 PM	#8
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	Re: Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio That was a dud interview. Dan P never challenged him on anything. peter just said that he doesn't wield power with other voters like Joe T said he does and that was the end of it. Peter called Monk a local argument and implied the the football world as a whole does not care that MOnk is not in. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

01-30-2006, 03:25 PM	#9
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio All of my friends who know anything about football are just as puzzled as I am over the fact that Monk isn't in. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-30-2006, 03:25 PM	#10
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio This guy is such a hypocrite, he's not voting for Monk because no one outside of DC cares? Yet he pushes for Harry Carson? As if anyone outside of NY can remember the guys name. It's funny how he backs Curtis martin and say's that he hopes that his anonimity doesn't hurt him on the ballot, sounds a lot like Monk doesn't it. Russ Grimm over Monk? We all love Russ but lets be real. Monk held all time NFL records, most catches in a season, most consecutive games with a catch, and the all time leader with receptions, ALL TIME!!!!!! Obviously there is something else there, Monk should have been a first ballot no brainer, and that's why I don't put a lot of stock in popularity contests, such as the pro-bowl and the hall of fame, are they truly about talent? Or just a matter of being one of the boy's?

01-30-2006, 03:26 PM	#11
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio I'm sure nobody besides redskins fans care whether or not AM is in the HOF. I"m not surprised the interview was a dud, the DP show itself is a dud. It just not worth listening to anymore.

01-30-2006, 03:31 PM	#13
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio I've already said to Gmanc and cpayne over IM that sports writers shouldn't hold so much weight in the voting system. It should be up to a number of groups, specifically players, coaches and MOST IMPORTANTLY fans. Just because you write about sports what gives you the authority to or not to immortalize a deserving player? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-30-2006, 03:31 PM	#14
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio does anyone know the reasoning behind monk not getting in?his stats support him to the hall

01-30-2006, 03:40 PM	#15
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Theismann Vs. Peter King...right now on ESPN Radio In a nutshell for those that missed it... Theismann says that Peter King has so much influence among Hall of Fame voters, that since he won't vote Art Monk in, nobody else will either. Peter King replies -- 1. He doesn't have the influence Theismann thinks he does. 2. He's not saying he'll never vote Art Monk in, and that he does keep an open mind on the subject. He admits that there's a compelling argument that Monk should be in, but he'd put Russ Grimm in before Monk. Says that if someone tells him something about Monk that he hasn't heard before, he'll consider it. 3. He's not hearing from opponents and others throughtout the league and other cities that Monk deserves to be in -- it's only from former teammates of Monk, and those in circles around Washington D.C. There you have it ... and like you've read from other posts, they're right, it wasn't much of an interview. No challenges from Dan Patrick, nothing about the disparity in numbers comparing Art Monk to say, Lynn Swann. Nothing. Pretty lame.

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