Reggie Bush's Contract

[saden1]

How much is the guy worth?. Would you be willing to pay someone just out of college 25 million signing bonus? I just can't believe anyone would be willing to cough-up that kind of dough. I see a potential long, long holdout.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by saden1

How much is the guy worth?. Would you be willing to pay someone just out of college 25 million signing bonus? I just can't believe anyone would be willing to cough-up that kind of dough. I see a potential long, long holdout.

Perhaps, but I do not think there will be a holdout. I would not be willing to give a bonus that high, just because I am still not a 100 percent believer in Bush. He is amazing, but he had <15 carries per game, and in the NFL it is likely he might get around 40ish. That could potentially do alot of damage to his small frame. But hey Barry Sanders was about the same size, and look what he did.

[Hog1]

somebody is gonna' be REAL disapppointed if he does not work out! I don't want ANYBODY for that kind of jack

[dmek25]

i better get 2000 yards rushing,100 receptions and 30 touchdowns a season for all that

[12thMan]

Guess what, Bush will be the highest paid rookie to come out in recent history.

I think he's bordering on LaBron pre-draft hype. In terms of athletic potential and marketing potential. I can see the marketing guru's now, playing on his last name "Bush" like they've played on the whole "King James" thing.

Whether he's all that or not, no one will wait and see. They'll just give him a truck load of money and let the chips fall where they may. Back up the U-Haul boys, here comes Reggie Bush!!

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

How much is the guy worth?. Would you be willing to pay someone just out of college 25 million signing bonus? I just can't believe anyone would be willing to cough-up that kind of dough. I see a potential long, long holdout.

They'll have a contract in place when they draft him. The first pick in the draft is allowed to negotiate before the draft. They won't draft him if it is clear they are far apart.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Perhaps, but I do not think there will be a holdout. I would not be willing to give a bonus that high, just because I am still not a 100 percent believer in Bush. He is amazing, but he had <15 carries per game, and in the NFL it is likely he might get around 40ish. That could potentially do alot of damage to his small frame. But hey Barry Sanders was about the same size, and look what he did.

40 is an excessive figure. The highest average this season was only 24 carries/game. He will get more touches, but the length of the season will probably take more of a toll. However, if he goes to Houston, he probably won't have to worry about staying healthy for the playoffs...

[andy1282]

Rookie contracts have gotten WAY out of control. I heard Howie Long say something interesting on the fox pregame show probably a couple months ago. He says rookies should get a flat pay coming into the NFL with incentive escalators. If, after their rookie season, the player is a starter, he can renegotiate his contract. Or something like that. Long said the idea would get alot of support from the player's union because it would put more money in the pool for veterans.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by andy1282

Rookie contracts have gotten WAY out of control. I heard Howie Long say something interesting on the fox pregame show probably a couple months ago. He says rookies should get a flat pay coming into the NFL with incentive escalators. If, after their rookie season, the player is a starter, he can renegotiate his contract. Or something like that. Long said the idea would get alot of support from the player's union because it would put more money in the pool for veterans.

Totally, how many Heismann winners have been successful?

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Totally, how many Heismann winners have been successful?

I think there are more busts than booms, but it's not as lopsided as you think. Of course, there are still 2 more out there TBD (Leinart and Bush).

BUSTS (Bad)

YEAR     WINNER SCHOOL      POSITION 
2003     Jason White        Oklahoma QB 
2001     Eric Crouch        Nebraska QB 
2000     Chris Weinke       Florida State QB 
1999     Ron Dayne          Wisconsin RB 
1996     Danny Wuerffel     Florida QB 
1994     Rashaan Salaam     Colorado RB 
1993     Charlie Ward       Florida State QB 
1992     Gino Torretta      Miami QB 
1991     Desmond Howard     Michigan WR 
1990     Ty Detmer          Brigham Young QB 
1989     Andre Ware         Houston QB 
1985     Bo Jackson         Auburn RB 
1983     Mike Rozier        Nebraska RB 
1982     Herschel Walker    Georgia RB 
1979     Charles White      Southern California RB 
1973     John Cappelletti   Penn State RB 
1972     Johnny Rodgers     Nebraska WR 
1971     Pat Sullivan       Auburn QB 
1969     Steve Owens        Oklahoma HB 
1967     Gary Beban         UCLA QB 
1966     Steve Spurrier     Florida QB 
1965     Mike Garrett       Southern California HB 
1964     John Huarte        Notre Dame QB

BOOMS (Good)

YEAR     WINNER SCHOOL      POSITION 
2002     Carson Palmer      Southern California QB 
1998     Ricky Williams     Texas RB 
1997     Charles Woodson    Michigan DB/WR 
1995     Eddie George       Ohio State RB 
1988     Barry Sanders      Oklahoma State RB 
1987     Tim Brown          Notre Dame WR 
1986     Vinny Testaverde   Miami QB 
1984     Doug Flutie        Boston College QB 
1981     Marcus Allen       Southern California RB 
1980     George Rogers      South Carolina RB 
1978     Billy Sims         Oklahoma RB 
1977     Earl Campbell      Texas RB 
1976     Tony Dorsett       Pittsburgh RB 
1975     Archie Griffin     Ohio State RB 
1974     Archie Griffin     Ohio State RB 
1970     Jim Plunkett       Stanford QB 
1968     O.J. Simpson       Southern California HB 
1963     Roger Staubach     Navy QB

[onlydarksets]

I'm sure people will take issue with some of my classifications, but I think "successful" has a broad definition.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

I'm sure people will take issue with some of my classifications, but I think "successful" has a broad definition.

Yeah, I have to disagree with a few of those. Herschel Walker had a pretty good career, so he shouldn't be labeled a "bust". Bo Jackson was one of the best backs in the league before a freak injury finished his career. If you're basing it on the length of his career, then I can see your argument, but if Ricky Williams and Vinny Testaverde are considered "good" then Jackson certainly should be.

[12thMan]

I know he's not on the list, but Gayle Sayers only played a little over 5 yrs w/Bears before his career ended and yet is in HOF.

[firstdown]

What every happened to the running back I think played for either Miami or FL State who got their knee blown out in a bowl game. I forgott his name but I do remember that he got drafted later and I think he was the Heis.winner that year. This was about 2 or 3 years ago.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

What every happened to the running back I think played for either Miami or FL State who got their knee blown out in a bowl game. I forgott his name but I do remember that he got drafted later and I think he was the Heis.winner that year. This was about 2 or 3 years ago.

Willis McGeHee