Falcons postgame positives and negatives

[skinsfaninok]

Yeah he was a good QB he just never got lucky in the playoffs it seemed. Also chad didn't turn it over as much. Kirk has alot to prove

[punch it in]

Kirk has still not started a full seasons worth of games. He has only started 5 as "thee" guy so I am not sure I can really compare him to anyone yet or that it would be fair to do so.

[MTK]

At just 14 starts he deserves double that before we can tell what he really is, but unfortunately he's not giving us a ton of hope at the midway point.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

At just 14 starts he deserves double that before we can tell what he really is, but unfortunately he's not giving us a ton of hope at the midway point.

Would agree Im not feeling completely like we found our guy, but he did seem rather poised at the end of regulation the last couple weeks. Ill leave the fall down / interception thing alone. Lets just say Grant keeps his footing and we move down the field though? Than Id feel a little better.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Would agree Im not feeling completely like we found our guy, but he did seem rather poised at the end of regulation the last couple weeks. Ill leave the fall down / interception thing alone. Lets just say Grant keeps his footing and we move down the field though? Than Id feel a little better.

Kirk got two grades in the film review:

C overall.

A- at the end of the game.

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[30gut]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

See post #59. According to Cooley, it was more than a simple hitch.

Based on the analysis, he threw it where the CB would have to come through Grant's body to get the ball.

In other words, he threw it to the one place his guy could get the ball and the defender couldn't. It's either a completion or an incomplete on a hot route if Grant hadn't fallen down.

Even if its a hitch that converts to an out..meaning the receivers runs a hitch then pivots into an out the initial part of the route is still a hitch/curl. And you typically don't throw those types of stop/out routes against CBs that are squatting on the routes with vision on the receiver and the QB before receiver is out of their break. Routes like that are 'given' as Bill Walsh would say and the Falcons CBs weren't giving it they were taking it away.

Alford was flat footed looking at Grant and Kirk. He never even thought about getting out of his backpedal I think Alford has a chance at that ball if Grant stays up or not.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

After watching kirk play enough now the only QB I could come up with for a comparison is Chad Pennington but he isn't as accurate as Chad was. Anyone agree?

Kirk's book is still being written. The QB we face this week is a good comp. But so are Matt Schaub and Wrecks Grossman. Kirk has flashes where he's very good. He needs to improve consistency, decision making and accuracy to earn a starting job.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Kirk's book is still being written. The QB we face this week is a good comp. But so are Matt Schaub and Wrecks Grossman. Kirk has flashes where he's very good. He needs to improve consistency, decision making and accuracy to earn a starting job.

Flashes are important because it means he is capable. Hopefully consistency comes with time. And by time i mean next week against the effin jets! Lol

[30gut]

I think the Jets are the toughest match-up we've had yet.

[punch it in]

The Jets have beaten the Browns Colts and Dolphins? Yes we lost to Miami. They lost to Philly. Every week I hear about how we are giving other teams too much credit. I am going to be the first to say we are giving them too much.
To quote so many other posts about so many other games "when the hell did they become the 85 Bears?" Oh and I will add that Ryan Fitzpatrick stinks. Bring em on!

[rocnrik]

we beat the jets!!! I am telling you we get it on track this week..SKINS 31 JETS 21..take it to the bank!!

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

At just 14 starts he deserves double that before we can tell what he really is, but unfortunately he's not giving us a ton of hope at the midway point.

Speak for yourself on whether or not Kirk has given us much to be hopeful about. I realize that he needs to become a more accurate passer and he's had some bad interceptions but he has also had some outstanding moments. He was outstanding during the game-winning drive against the Eagles. Just one week later, he took us down the field with less than 45 seconds left to tie the game against Atlanta. He was also making good throws and moving the chains in OT until he may or may not have made a poor decision and/or a bad throw that ended the game. It's those outstanding moments that give me plenty of hope for the future with Kirk at QB.

Still, as you pointed out, we don't yet know what we have in Kirk. I agree with you that he needs more starts so we can find out.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Speak for yourself on whether or not Kirk has given us much to be hopeful about. I realize that he needs to become a more accurate passer and he's had some bad interceptions but he has also had some outstanding moments. He was outstanding during the game-winning drive against the Eagles. Just one week later, he took us down the field with less than 45 seconds left to tie the game against Atlanta. He was also making good throws and moving the chains in OT until he may or may not have made a poor decision and/or a bad throw that ended the game. It's those outstanding moments that give me plenty of hope for the future with Kirk at QB.

Still, as you pointed out, we don't yet know what we have in Kirk. I agree with you that he needs more starts so we can find out.

If cousins had more competent, consistent play in both the Miami and Atlanta games they would have been wins. He has been ok, but ok gets u 7-9 and 8-8. I need to see much better play to secure himself as the starter for next year.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If cousins had more competent, consistent play in both the Miami and Atlanta games they would have been wins. He has been ok, but ok gets u 7-9 and 8-8. I need to see much better play to secure himself as the starter for next year.

Guess what, Chico? I would be satisfied with 8-8 this season. Kirk is far from the only player who needs to develop for us to improve our W/L record. Plus, I think we need two more drafts and two more FA periods to become a perennial contender. I consider this to be Year 1 of a three year building process. I think Kirk is developing and I hope he gets where we need him to be by the time we're ready to win big.

[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Guess what, Chico? I would be satisfied with 8-8 this season. Kirk is far from the only player who needs to develop for us to improve our W/L record. Plus, I think we need two more drafts and two more FA periods to become a perennial contender. I consider this to be Year 1 of a three year building process. I think Kirk is developing and I hope he gets where we need him to be by the time we're ready to win big.

We haven't won but 9 games since 2012 and all of a sudden everyone is too good for an 8 win season. I'm with you let's win 7 or 8 this year and get this train back on track..