Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by saden1

If you think what I wrote is gleeful you are wrong. This is not personal. I want one thing and one thing only and that is to win and the only way that happens is if RG3 is off the field.

I get it though, you guys are still enamored and hopefule RG3 can be this teams champion.

I think it is a bit personal with you. How could you be happy, as a true Redskin fan, with RG3 lying there with another serious injury? After all he's been through? He's made mistakes with all the marketing BS IMO, and some shots at the Shanahan's, but you can not deny his work ethic and his desire to be the best, so I respect that. KC can play and he's obviously ahead of RG3 in some areas, but let's not quite write off RG3 yet. He has done a lot of good things around here, just so you know.

[Coff]

Apparently Vegas seems to have faith in Cousins; the line is even for the game in Philly. I would imagine it's going to change in the next few days, but the fact that it opened even is very interesting.

[Defensewins]

RGIII is not proficient at looking off safeties, pickup the blitz and getting rid of the ball quickly even if it is an incompletion.
Some of the sacks he took against the Texans were awful and frustrating.
Perfect example: In the texans game on the play RGIII got called for intentional grounding. The Texans tipped their hand that they were blitzing as one saftey (Sweanger)and two LB's were on the line of scrimmage before the snap (never understood why defenses tipping a blitz).
Yet RGIII held onto the ball and tried running away from the bltiz instead of just getting rid of the ball quickly. This play typified the frustration I had with the 2013-2014 RGIII. He just thinks he is so fast he can out run the blitz.
KCousins in the Jags game was not tipped off the blitz was coming but had a LB or safety in his face right after the snap and he threw it to the feet of one his receivers.
That is the type smart of play I want to see a healthy RGIII make. That would show me he has learned something rather than depend on his athletic ability.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Coff

Apparently Vegas seems to have faith in Cousins; the line is even for the game in Philly. I would imagine it's going to change in the next few days, but the fact that it opened even is very interesting.

Wow, that's giving the Redskins way too respect. But remember, Philly played a tough road game last night so they have a short week.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

RGIII is not proficient at looking off safeties, pickup the blitz and getting rid of the ball quickly even if it is an incompletion.
Some of the sacks he took against the Texans were awful and frustrating.
Perfect example: In the texans game on the play RGIII got called for intentional grounding. The Texans tipped their hand that they were blitzing as pone saftey and two LB's were on the line of scrimmage before the snap (never understood why defenses tipping a blitz).
Yet RGIII held onto the ball and tried running away from the bltiz instead of just getting rid of the ball quickly. This play typified the frustration I had with the 2013-2014 RGIII. He just thinks he is so fast he can out run the blitz.
KCousins in the Jags game was not tipped off the blitz was coming but had a LB or safety in his face right after the snap and he threw it to the feet of one his receivers.
That is the type smart of play I want to see a healthy RGIII make. That would show me he has learned something rather than depend on his athletic ability.

These are areas where we all know RG3 struggles. But it's not like he can't learn all this stuff as time goes on, just like KC I think will cut down on his turnovers. The question is if KC comes in and plays well, will the organization want to wait for RG3?

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Am I the only one that saw Griffin playing well to start the game on Sunday. This could have been his turnaround game the way things were going

Nope, you weren't. Looked to me that he was about to have one of his great games. A game that started with so much promise for him to build on turned into a heartbreaking day for him.

[Fiversons]

We really don't need Kirk to get that much better... We need him to be more consistent and not turn the ball over... All we need him to do is play like he played last Sunday, and we will win football games... To bank on RGIII being healthy enough to reach is potential is foolish at best... And to trade Cousins? Simply absurd...

[irish]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

We really don't need Kirk to get that much better... We need him to be more consistent and not turn the ball over... All we need him to do is play like he played last Sunday, and we will win football games... To bank on RGIII being healthy enough to reach is potential is foolish at best... And to trade Cousins? Simply absurd...

Great post. This pretty much sums it all up.

[MTK]

Griffin wouldn't be the first guy to have injuries early on in his career, only to go on to have a good career. Just saying.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

We really don't need Kirk to get that much better... We need him to be more consistent and not turn the ball over... All we need him to do is play like he played last Sunday, and we will win football games... To bank on RGIII being healthy enough to reach is potential is foolish at best... And to trade Cousins? Simply absurd...

We could very well be a poor man's Seattle for the rest of the season: a top 5 running game, a top 10 defense, and not ask our QB to do much.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

We really don't need Kirk to get that much better... We need him to be more consistent and not turn the ball over... All we need him to do is play like he played last Sunday, and we will win football games... To bank on RGIII being healthy enough to reach is potential is foolish at best... And to trade Cousins? Simply absurd...

I really don't know how we can speculate on how much better or not he needs to be, when we really dint know yet how good he is.

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Griffin wouldn't be the first guy to have injuries early on in his career, only to go on to have a good career. Just saying.

I'm not giving up on him either, I'm just trying to be realistic... There is a decent possibility RGIII will never be the QB we drafted him to be, through no fault of his own... To me it looks like the FO will have a decision to make after this year between Cousins and RGIII... I can't fathom how they can keep them both... But who knows, maybe they can and this thing will ride out another year...

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Griffin wouldn't be the first guy to have injuries early on in his career, only to go on to have a good career. Just saying.

Which great Qb had two season ending injuries in his first 2 & 2/16th seasons? Just curious who that might be. I am not trying being a smart ass.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Griffin wouldn't be the first guy to have injuries early on in his career, only to go on to have a good career. Just saying.

I remember when Loins fans got up in arms when Stafford got repeatedly hurt early in his career. Megatron, for one, is happy that the Loins did not give up on Stafford.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

We could very well be a poor man's Seattle for the rest of the season: a top 5 running game, a top 10 defense, and not ask our QB to do much.

That's what I'm thinking. And that recipe could land us in the playoffs.