The Legitimacy of Super Bowls 17 & 22

[punch it in]

helmet catch schmelmet catch

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by punch it in

helmet catch schmelmet catch

Yea, where is he now?

[53Fan]

As far as I know all the teams played the same amount of games and had the same opportunity to win it as we did. The only difference is we did and they didn't. Whining about it doesn't change a thing.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

As far as I know all the teams played the same amount of games and had the same opportunity to win it as we did. The only difference is we did and they didn't. Whining about it doesn't change a thing.

Everyonce in a while my giant friends will point this out and they always resort to the fact that the scabs made it unfair because we had better scabs (which we did). They always wind up admitting that the true team was so good that it probably would not have made a difference though.


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[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Everyonce in a while my giant friends will point this out and they always resort to the fact that the scabs made it unfair because we had better scabs (which we did). They always wind up admitting that the true team was so good that it probably would not have made a difference though.


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Whether we had better scabs than they did or not, that's a front office problem that falls on the general manager. If they weren't able to assemble a team with the best players that could be located then that's their fault. Bobby Beathard was like 10 GMs in one. He's truly the reason why the Redskins were so successful during that era.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Whether we had better scabs than they did or not, that's a front office problem that falls on the general manager. If they weren't able to assemble a team with the best players that could be located then that's their fault. Bobby Beathard was like 10 GMs in one. He's truly the reason why the Redskins were so successful during that era.

Dont remember enough about it to know how much work/scouting/effort went into the scabs.

[SouperMeister]

Those Super Bowls produced two of the most legendary performances in NFL history. John Riggins set a then Super Bowl record with 166 yards rushing, including the iconic 4th down go ahead 43 yard TD run in Super Bowl XVII. Doug Williams quarterbacked the single greatest offensive explosion, Super Bowl or otherwise, in the 2nd quarter of Super Bowl XXII - 18 plays, 356 yards, and 35 points, including 4 TD passes. Those performances are more memorable than any the Giants have produced in their four winning Super Bowls.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Being from Washington D.C. and living in NYC, a lot of NY Giants fans like to claim that the Redskins victories over the Miami Dolphins and the Denver Broncos in Super Bowls 17 and 22 are not legit simply because they happened only because NFL players strikes shortened those seasons. What they don't realize is that that 1982 team was good enough to not only amass the most points in a season in NFL history the next season and return to the Super Bowl, had it won it would have been considered the greatest team off all time.

As far as the 1987 team, they had made it to the NFC championship game and lost against the NYG the previous year. To be good enough to go that far and then go back the next season not only reveals how good a team the 1987 team was, but like the 1982 team, proves it's legitimacy.

The Giants fans are drunk with their chest poked out only because they've won 2 Super Bowls in the past 5 years. Their arrogance blinds them to reality, I often tell them. But their day is coming when under Coach Coughlin they will endure a miserable losing season.

I seek the true insight of Redskins Nation on this topic. Thoughts?

Not much we can say cause 07 and 11 they had to win 4 games in order to lift the trophy. But to me it's stupid to discredit the 82 and 87 years. Actually in 87 SF and Chicago were the two best teams. SF was upset by Minn and of course everyone remembers the upset against Chicago where D. Green ran back the punt in the freezing cold. We still had to beat quality teams to just get to the SB. In 82 we had to win 4 games and again...had to beat the best teams in the playoffs, including Dexter knocking out D.White! Great memories!

[coggs]

As a Giants fan, I have never once questioned the legitimacy of the 82 and 87 titles. Had the 87 strike continued and they league used replacement players for the play-offs and Super Bowl, then there is an asterik.

As for the Giants in 07 and 11, no they were not a dominant 14-2, 13-3 type team. However, in both seasons they went on the road to beat the #1 and then #2 seed in the NFC and in both years beat the AFC's #1 seed. In 07, they even played their first play-off game on the road. Can't get a much tougher road to the title then what the Giants did.

Secondly, ANY fan who claims they wouldn't celebrate or get a big head over Championships like the Giants won because they didnt dominate the regular season, is more full of $h!t than a politician.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by coggs

As a Giants fan, I have never once questioned the legitimacy of the 82 and 87 titles. Had the 87 strike continued and they league used replacement players for the play-offs and Super Bowl, then there is an asterik.

As for the Giants in 07 and 11, no they were not a dominant 14-2, 13-3 type team. However, in both seasons they went on the road to beat the #1 and then #2 seed in the NFC and in both years beat the AFC's #1 seed. In 07, they even played their first play-off game on the road. Can't get a much tougher road to the title then what the Giants did.

Secondly, ANY fan who claims they wouldn't celebrate or get a big head over Championships like the Giants won because they didnt dominate the regular season, is more full of $h!t than a politician.

Agreed. G-men are mentally tough road warriors. They earned it the hard way. Enough said.

[punch it in]

Lets just say that every team who has ever won a superbowl was awesome and end this insanity. If you want to stake a claim of which was better that is one thing but to say any of them were lucky or not legitimate is sour grapes, jealous, and just dumb.


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[44ever]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lets just say that every team who has ever won a superbowl was awesome and end this insanity. If you want to stake a claim of which was better that is one thing but to say any of them were lucky or not legitimate is sour grapes, jealous, and just dumb.


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Agree, Great teams find a way to win when they need to win. Giants are a great team and have been for some time now. I hate the MFs but its the truth.

[los panda]

i think eli has proven himself to be great, a hof lock.

as clutch as they come when it counts the most.

[Bishop Hammer]

I gotta agree with Panda. I use to thinl Eli was a bum but he's helped lead his team to two Superbowls and has delivered many clutch performances. Manning is a great quarterback. I'm not going to take that away from him just because I don't like the Giants.