My 1st anti-coaching thread

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've been one that's preached 'trust the coaches' all season and that I trusted Gibbs judgment explicitly but today's loss and the last month in general I think it's time to really question some things..

Playcalling-Terrible decisions on offense with the plays.. Too many conservative playcalls. It seems like there are like 8 total plays in the playbook. When I can sit on my couch in Miami and call the plays before they happen an NFL coach can surely predict the same. Too conservative, playing not to lose=losing football. I'm convinced that this coaching staff is not the right group to get us back to the top. We have better offensive talent than teams scoring 24-31 pts a week but we are not getting it done. That's flat out coaching and execution but it all starts on the sidelines.

Defensive playcalling-Same thing, why did we stop blitzing? 3 & 4 man rushes against an offensive line that was allowing pressure all day when the blitz came? Other than Harris the DBs played exceptionally well for most of the game, why not let them give them a chance to make a play?

Roster decisions-Derrick Frost is awful, worst punter in the league.. Walt Harris has been terrible since October, why is he still playing?? WR depth was a problem coming out of training camp but how can we not have a WR on the practice squad instead of Jimmy Farris who was out of football last week and the #3 WR this week?

Very frustrated and with no #1 pick and up against the cap this offseason I can't say that I'm even looking forward to that anymore..

AMEN

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

It's not like it's all that different from Gibbs' first run as coach. I mean you knew when they were going to go with the Jumbo offense, or run the counter-tre, or do a bootleg. Not the most extensive playbook, but with a lot of motion and different formations. The key is to execute it well enough that even if they know it's coming they can't stop it. Like Stockton-Malone's pick-and roll

Yep except this is 2005 not 1979

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Redskin

you guys act like we are getting destroyed in these games when they are all close down to the wire we have a good team here we are making stupid mistakes

We lost thats the bottom line whether it's by 55 or 1 point a Loss is A Loss

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

It's time for the youth movement on the coaching staff. As much as we all love Joe Gibbs, at this point in his return, he has the exact same record as Steve Spurrier had after 27 games. And Gregg Williams is showing why his stint was so short in Buffalo: he couldn't hold the lead. Let's start anew next year.
We should have two goals for the rest of the season: beat Dallas and see what J. Campbell can do. It can't hurt at this point, when we're a less-than-average team.

LMAO finally!!! I knew this guy wasnt the genius everybody made him out to be

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Portis is suppose to be making the plays L.T. did today. That is my biggest dissapointment from the coaching staff. They are obviously not using him wisely.

You know bushead, my buddy said the same exact thing. When you have a real RB running the ball it's academics. Portis has done this over and over. He doesn't seem to get stronger down the stretch. He fades into the background after half time. Now what really pisses me off is the fact that Gibbs won't play Nehemiah Broughton or any other RB when Portis is tired. Even Cartwright should have gotten the ball in the fourth quarter.

[MTK]

I think it's so easy to whine and say it's the playcalling, but the execution hasn't been up to par lately either. Dropped passes, penalties, turnovers, etc., that's all on the players.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

LMAO finally!!! I knew this guy wasnt the genius everybody made him out to be

nah dude, he is the genius everyone is making him out to be... give any other D coordinator (aside from a select few) the line he has and tell me he holds the chargers to 17 in regulation... especially with all those three and outs in the second half by our offense.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

If we get another wideout, I think a lot of the questions about our offense will disappear.

Brandon Lloyd is a free-agent after this season. We need to get his ass in here. We need one big target and he can catch. He has made incredible catches on a team that is going no where. Let's see what happens.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Brandon Lloyd is a free-agent after this season. We need to get his ass in here. We need one big target and he can catch. He has made incredible catches on a team that is going no where. Let's see what happens.

What about Reggie Wayne? I think he's also a free-agent

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

What about Reggie Wayne? I think he's also a free-agent

Nope, I believe he signed a extension.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's so easy to whine and say it's the playcalling, but the execution hasn't been up to par lately either. Dropped passes, penalties, turnovers, etc., that's all on the players.

Matty, you know I have been right there with you with the 'trust the coaches' mantra, but the playcalling the past 3 games especially has been terrible.. Execution has been bad, no doubt, but the predictability of the play calls has nothing to do with execution. The conservatism has nothing to do with execution.. IMO to be better than 8-8 in todays NFL you need to either score 24+ a game or give up less than 13 a game. We are nowhere near either of those benchmarks which is why we are constantly fighting ourselves for a win..

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Matty, you know I have been right there with you with the 'trust the coaches' mantra, but the playcalling the past 3 games especially has been terrible.. Execution has been bad, no doubt, but the predictability of the play calls has nothing to do with execution. The conservatism has nothing to do with execution.. IMO to be better than 8-8 in todays NFL you need to either score 24+ a game or give up less than 13 a game. We are nowhere near either of those benchmarks which is why we are constantly fighting ourselves for a win..

Ever since Moss made the headlines, the deep ball has been taken away via double-coverage. I don't think we are good enough to successfully use trick plays. I'm not sure what the coaching staff is doing that is so conservative. I think it's smart playcalling (i.e. our last "drive" against the Chargers). I think the execution and talent (see our #2 wideout and #1 tight-end) just isn't there.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Ever since Moss made the headlines, the deep ball has been taken away via double-coverage. I don't think we are good enough to successfully use trick plays. I'm not sure what the coaching staff is doing that is so conservative. I think it's smart playcalling (i.e. our last "drive" against the Chargers). I think the execution and talent (see our #2 wideout and #1 tight-end) just isn't there.

From the 'Playcalling' Thread that I just posted in:

1-10-SD31 (1:04) C.Portis to SD 25 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Florence).
2-4-SD25 (:55) C.Portis right end to SD 25 for no gain (L.Castillo).
PENALTY on WAS-C.Rabach, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at SD 25 - No Play.
2-14-SD35 (:50) C.Portis left end to SD 35 for no gain (R.Godfrey).
3-14-SD35 (:40) M.Brunell pass incomplete to C.Cooley (S.Merriman).
4-14-SD35 (:35) J.Hall 52 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-E.Albright, Holder-D.Frost.

From the 35 you are out of FG range. The highlighted playcall on 2nd and 14 is asinine to me. To me that is giving up on the drive by conceding 3rd and long and a long FG attempt. Are there no plays in the playbook designed to gain 7-10 yds?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

From the 'Playcalling' Thread that I just posted in:

1-10-SD31 (1:04) C.Portis to SD 25 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Florence).
2-4-SD25 (:55) C.Portis right end to SD 25 for no gain (L.Castillo).
PENALTY on WAS-C.Rabach, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at SD 25 - No Play.
2-14-SD35 (:50) C.Portis left end to SD 35 for no gain (R.Godfrey).
3-14-SD35 (:40) M.Brunell pass incomplete to C.Cooley (S.Merriman).
4-14-SD35 (:35) J.Hall 52 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-E.Albright, Holder-D.Frost.

From the 35 you are out of FG range. The highlighted playcall on 2nd and 14 is asinine to me. To me that is giving up on the drive by conceding 3rd and long and a long FG attempt. Are there no plays in the playbook designed to gain 7-10 yds?

If I remember right, that play was a delayed handoff. Basically to freeze the defense into thinking it was pass then run. But the Chargers didn't bite

[jrocx69]

Originally Posted by davy

I thought this site was for knowledgeable fans not for bad losers.

those are words of a genius... to bad we dont have many davy