Redskins Moving up?

[SKINZ_DOMIN8]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yeah, I really don't feel that happening though. I swear, if this Jason Campbell thing DOES happen, I'd ask to be traded if I were Ramsey.

Good. Let him go.
We need a real Qb not a flash in the pan.

[56FAN]

the coach said in the press thing yesterday that they had called all the teams above them and below them to check on possiblities and work out scenierios. i wonder if this is what they're talking about. let it slide, everything you hear unless it is from the skins personally, let it slide. they got to sell papers and will say anything to dit. that was the whole jist of the press thing with coach vinnie & dan yesterday. don't sweat it guys. remember if our line has strightend out we only need a few players to look at the playoffs.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I also have this thinking about drafting a WR. I know we have a bunch of #2s. Don't you think that a group of average/above average WRs can more than get the job done? We are a running team and we have the type of WR that DO stretch the field.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Also, referring to Campbell, how is 8 losses in your entire college career mediocre?

Insider's Expert's scouting report on Campbell:

Overall: Campbell is a coaches son who also stared in basketball in high school. He became the first freshman to start the season opener at quarterback for Auburn since Stan White in 1990. Campbell started eight games in 2001, six games in 2002 and all 13 games in 2003. He had by far his best season as a senior in 2004 when he completed 69.6-percent of his passes for 2,700 yards and threw 19 touchdowns and just six interceptions, while leading the Tigers to a perfect 13-0 record. Campbell has always had excellent size, good athletic ability and above average arm strength, but his poor decision making skills, lack of poise in the pocket, indecisiveness and erratic arm haunted him early in his collegiate career. Throughout his first three seasons as a starter, Campbell consistently held onto the ball too long, threw too many passes up for grabs when he ran out of time, missed open receivers downfield and overthrew too many of the receivers that he did find open. However, No player improved his draft value more in 2004 than Campbell. After struggling through three extremely inconsistent and unfulfilling seasons, Campbell thrived as a senior in what was his fourth offensive scheme in four years. New offensive coordinator Al Borges found the right fit for Campbell, as his West Coast scheme simplified things and gave Campbell a lot more definitive reads to make. As his confidence improved, so too did his production. Most impressive was Campbell's improvement in regards to his decision-making skills, as he threw 13 more touchdowns (19) than interceptions (6) in 2004. Campbell has the physical tools of a first round pick but there are still questions about his downfield accuracy and ability to see the entire field. That's why we grade Campbell out as a solid second round prospect.

Like I said. Three so-so years, one good year, in a west coast scheme that had to be simplified. Seriously, what the heck are we going to do with a west coast QB? He's just not that impressive. If you look at his throwing statistics compared to the other top 10 QB draft prospects, I think you'll see that he's really nothing to write home about. In fact, his numbers put him somewhere around the bottom of the top 10 QBs.

And if I had Cadillac AND Ronnie Brown behind me, with a consistently good to great defense, I'd probably have a pretty good win/loss record too. Win/loss records in college football are no indicator of success in the pros. Danny Wuerrfle, Shane Matthews, Ken Dorsey, Andre Ware, Eric Crouch............the list just goes on and on.

[56FAN]

i like pac man alot ala darrell green but mr rogers has really perked my intrest. he is faster than pac man(from what i've read) and as big as rolle. and , last he won the trophy for best cb in the nation over both of them. and he's a good charachter guy. man, that's tough to beat.

[Daseal]

Uhh - 56fan... Explain to me exactly why we should listen to the REDSKINS during draft time. They wouldn't DARE lie. Not saying I think Campbell rumor is true, but still. Kinda like how Coles was fine? I mean, come on. They're going to lie - they have to. It's part of the game. Don't believe the rumors 100% either, but if you hear something enough it probably has some merit.

No doubt Campbell is greatly improved by that running game, but imagine that. A quarterback with less stability than Patrick Ramsey being erratic. Sure he has questions, who doesn't. I don't want us to draft him, but he's going to be a good player. Wouldn't suprise me one bit if he became the best QB out of this draft.

[Daseal]

He's not faster than Pac-man. Not by a long shot. He's faster than Rolle, but not quite as big as Rolle. He's kinda a mix between the two guys.

[Redskins_P]

Is it just me or does Jason Campbell sound very similar to what Ramsey was coming out of College? Good arm, poor decision making, no downfield accuracy, and holds on to the ball too long. Only difference is the mobility.

Why draft another "project" QB? I thought we did that when we drafted Ramsey?

[PSUskinsfan11]

Campbell might end up being good but everytime I see him I think Tony Banks. :frusty:

[celts32]

This Campbell stuff is stupid. And trading up for Edwards is even worse. No one thinks the Redskins need a #1 WR more than I do, but trading 4 draft picks for 1 player is stupid. he is not the next coming of Jerry Rice. I don't like Edwards that much anyway,I would rather have Williams.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Like I said in another post. This is why we need to stop this kind of talk. PSUSkinsFan said it when he stated it's just "smoke and mirrors".

[Daseal]

Malcolm - the draft is one of the best times to be a football fan because I could say we're going to draft Alex Smith - and oddly enough, it could happen (I don't think we will) but it's just fun to say what if...

That said - is it saturday YET?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I KNOW! But thank god I'll be watching it with a nice cold mug of beer at Buffalo Wild Wings rather than me having to bug Daseal to call me with every pick.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by celts32

This Campbell stuff is stupid. And trading up for Edwards is even worse. No one thinks the Redskins need a #1 WR more than I do, but trading 4 draft picks for 1 player is stupid. he is not the next coming of Jerry Rice. I don't like Edwards that much anyway,I would rather have Williams.

I agree on your first two points. But if they go for Edwards, it'll actually be 5 traded picks to get him: Two firsts this year (#'s 9 and 25), the first rounder we gave away to Denver next year (likely a top 15), this year's third, and next year's 4th. That's way too many, especially when the knock on Edwards is that he frequently drops catchable passes. A negative like that for a wide receiver should not get you top billing in the class of wideouts in any draft year, I don't care what anybody says.

I disagree on Mike Williams though. Word is, he could be tipping the scale at 245 pounds, has been away from the game too long, and isn't known for even 'good' speed, much less blazing speed. We've got plenty of possession receivers already and if they spend it on a wide receiver at all, the guy to root for is Troy Williamson, who's stock is apparently rising everyday -- and Williamson IS a speedster. Fastest in the draft is what I've heard. But we need a corner first and foremost, and Williamson will be long gone by pick #25. Wideouts in that part of the draft could include Mark Clayton of Oklahoma, or Roddy White of UAB.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I wouldn't say plenty. I would say one. McCants.

None of the big 3 in the receiver crowd is guaranteed (they rarely are), I happen to think that only one of the three will do anything.

Now which one?