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Old 02-11-2010, 12:54 PM   #1
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Re: How about moving Rogers to free safety?

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What about Horton as far as if Moore is at FS and Landry is at SS? Or what about Horton playing FS? I'm assuming you mean the first and in that case, unfortunately Horton won't be starting. If the second, I'm not sure what there's been seen to go with that suggestion.

What about Smoot at FS if we can't fill the role otherwise?
Well Smoot did play some FS last year so if he stays then I guess he's an option, probably no more than a backup though

I meant what about Horton as far as just in general where does he fit in all this? It's almost like we've forgotten he's on the roster
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:06 PM   #2
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Well Smoot did play some FS last year so if he stays then I guess he's an option, probably no more than a backup though

I meant what about Horton as far as just in general where does he fit in all this? It's almost like we've forgotten he's on the roster
Yeah that was my thinking, plus his skillset, but yeah I wouldn't want to count on him without exploring other options.

That's what I thought you meant with Horton, unfortunately it probably doesn't give him much of an option, but if Landry is moving to SS primarily, well.. I'd take Landry too. What other option would Horton have to start other than putting on 20-30lbs or so and trying his hand at ILB? Hard to say.

While at what are we going to do with Player X, what about Jarmon if we switch to 3-4, etc? Probably better for a different thread, but there are definitely a number of personnel decisions to be made on the D side of the ball.
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Yeah that was my thinking, plus his skillset, but yeah I wouldn't want to count on him without exploring other options.

That's what I thought you meant with Horton, unfortunately it probably doesn't give him much of an option, but if Landry is moving to SS primarily, well.. I'd take Landry too. What other option would Horton have to start other than putting on 20-30lbs or so and trying his hand at ILB? Hard to say.

While at what are we going to do with Player X, what about Jarmon if we switch to 3-4, etc? Probably better for a different thread, but there are definitely a number of personnel decisions to be made on the D side of the ball.
Horton at OLB. He isn't afraid of putting his face in someone's chest and he has the speed to cover the flats...interesting. I was a fan of signing Roy Williams for that experiment last year. Ideally, you want a player that has played the position but these guys are so athletic that they can or should be able to play multiple positions (what's the difference between playing SS and OLB?) Having played both, granted in HS, the only difference is about 5 yards difference off the LOS and coverage responsibilities.

I wonder if he can put that much weight on.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:35 PM   #4
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What about Horton as far as if Moore is at FS and Landry is at SS? Or what about Horton playing FS? I'm assuming you mean the first and in that case, unfortunately Horton won't be starting. If the second, I'm not sure what there's been seen to go with that suggestion.

What about Smoot at FS if we can't fill the role otherwise?
I'm sure Horton will play in certain packages. i like the guy and think he could be a quality starter (trading LL might not be a bad idea).

Smoot is terrible. He should be cut.
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Re: How about moving Rogers to free safety?

how about playing a safety at safety? i don't know why people think its that easy to just switch positions?
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how about playing a safety at safety? i don't know why people think its that easy to just switch positions?
Because guys like Woodson, Springs, and Rolle have all done it
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Re: How about moving Rogers to free safety?

This is the same type of Madden thinking that gets people in trouble.
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Because guys like Woodson, Springs, and Rolle have all done it
Rod woodson too. It's not out of the question. But I'd rather give K.Moore a shot and move Landry to SS. I don't think Horton has the range though he's had a nose for the ball.
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Rod woodson too. It's not out of the question. But I'd rather give K.Moore a shot and move Landry to SS. I don't think Horton has the range though he's had a nose for the ball.
He got a couple of INTs right his way, including tips, I'm not sure that's a nose for the ball.. he's a bit of a liability in coverage.
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He got a couple of INTs right his way, including tips, I'm not sure that's a nose for the ball.. he's a bit of a liability in coverage.
I agree to an extent. I don't think deep coverage is his strong point which is why he's better suited to play in the box (OLB...why not, they toyed with chris wilson at the position?).

I guess I overstated Horton having a nose for the ball. Ray Lewis and Ed Reed have a nose for the ball. Horton has made plays when they've come to him which is far more than we can say for Rogers.

I really think he'd do well playing in the box. He isn't afraid to stuff run action his way and i think he could cover the TE or backs out of the backfield.
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Because guys like Woodson, Springs, and Rolle have all done it
and how does los fit in with that group of guys????
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Re: How about moving Rogers to free safety?

How about sticking a boot up his ass?

Better yet, how about replacing his bricks with hands?
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:22 PM   #13
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and how does los fit in with that group of guys????
They all were drafted as cornerbacks? My only point was that it's been done before, and successfully. Not saying it would happen with Los but it wouldn't be some groundbreaking idea either
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Re: How about moving Rogers to free safety?

If the decision is made to keep him here I look for the new coaching staff to maximize his ability as a CB. I've never felt the way he was being used best suited his talent level. The knock on him has always been his inability to catch the ball, much of that had to do with his not being able to locate the ball in flight.

Playing the safety position would afford him the opportunity to see more plays developing in front of him, but his natural position is more of a CB than S.
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Re: How about moving Rogers to free safety?

^^^ i think being able to find the ball mid-flight is a very tough skill to learn and separates the elite cb from decent ones. I know d hall has that skill (and he probably tries to locate the ball too much, sometimes even playing off the receiver to try and bait the qb to throw the ball his way) but .. . .

i think los is our best all around cb, and normally i would agree with your comment that a cb probably has trouble picking the ball off b/c he cant locate the ball mid-flight, but ive seen so much of los (we all have) where he sees the ball, it is coming right at him, he watches the ball into his hands then for what ever reason he doesnt catch it.

los could def improve on his ball flight location, but imo alot of his missed picks were b/c of stone hands and vodoo.

im nitpickin
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