Another Pick In The 3rd Round?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-04-2008, 11:08 PM

Apparently the formula for determining what, if any, compensatory draft picks each club shall receive is not available to the public. Section 10 of Article XVI of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement simply states, "The rules and procedures regarding Compensatory Draft Selections ... shall be as agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA." According to a 2004 article written by ESPN's John Clayton, "The NFL Management Council determines the number and value of the compensatory picks, and it guards the secrecy of its compensatory formula like Coke guards its secret recipe. This much is known: The NFL formula is based on salary, playing time, postseason awards and the net of free agents lost versus free agents signed."

So we likely will not know what, if any, compensatory draft selections we will get until after the Annual Meeting at the end of this month. A 3rd rounder would certainly be nice though.

SmootSmack · 03-04-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Apparently the formula for determining what, if any, compensatory draft picks each club shall receive is not available to the public. Section 10 of Article XVI of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement simply states, "The rules and procedures regarding Compensatory Draft Selections ... shall be as agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA." According to a 2004 article written by ESPN's John Clayton, "The NFL Management Council determines the number and value of the compensatory picks, and it guards the secrecy of its compensatory formula like Coke guards its secret recipe. This much is known: The NFL formula is based on salary, playing time, postseason awards and the net of free agents lost versus free agents signed."

So we likely will not know what, if any, compensatory draft selections we will get until after the Annual Meeting at the end of this month. A 3rd rounder would certainly be nice though.

True, but the guy whose article I linked to seems to have a pretty good track record of predicting who is getting picks. Not perfect, but certainly seems very reliable

That Guy · 03-04-2008, 11:16 PM

this guy has an EXTREMELY good track record. he's been dead on for the skins the last two years (which are the only two years i've checked), so i'd place some weight on his opinion.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-04-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

True, but the guy whose article I linked to seems to have a pretty good track record of predicting who is getting picks. Not perfect, but certainly seems very reliable

Yeah, I read the article after it was posted on a thread on ES. The guy certainly seems to know what he is talking about, but I guess I just won't believe we will get an extra 3rd rounder until the NFL announces the compensatory draft pick awards.

That Guy · 03-04-2008, 11:18 PM

its FA signed, FA's lost, contract values, etc

a bunch of nfl guys get in a dark room and figure it out, so it's not an exact science, but they do seem to follow guidelines fairly closely.

SmootSmack · 03-04-2008, 11:21 PM

I wonder if the Redskins have the same sense (or maybe they already know) as this guy of what they're getting and with an extra 3rd round maybe that's another reason why they've been patient in free agency. Or if they get that extra 3rd round pick they can use their own as part of a trade...Chad Johnson?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-04-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wonder if the Redskins have the same sense (or maybe they already know) as this guy of what they're getting and with an extra 3rd round maybe that's another reason why they've been patient in free agency. Or if they get that extra 3rd round pick they can use their own as part of a trade...Chad Johnson?

If we get an extra 3rd rounder, we should be able to muster 3 immediate or future starters out of the draft. Also, our approach to free agency would certainly make more sense if we do get the pick.

FRPLG · 03-05-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I guess my question is, really the main guy we lost last year was Derrick Dockery....but we also signed Fletcher/Smoot.....so wouldnt we have signed just as highly stouted FA's as the one loss of Dockery?

I mean, I'm not complianing, cause that would be awsome, but does anyone know how exactly this is figured out before I get too excited?

I believe the fact that Smoot was cut made him ineligible in the calculation. I KNOW he isn't included in Minnesota's calculations because he was cut and did not become a true UFA due to an expiring contract.

Redskins_P · 03-05-2008, 12:44 AM

NFL Forum :: - Projecting the 2008 Compensatory Picks

SmootSmack · 03-05-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

NFL Forum :: - Projecting the 2008 Compensatory Picks

Yeah I think this guy's blog is being reposted around the Internet

GTripp0012 · 03-05-2008, 01:17 AM

I had no idea this was a mathematical equation. I thought it was subjective.

Well, good for us!

SmootSmack · 03-05-2008, 01:27 AM

Little known fact. Tom Brady was not only a 6th round pick, but he was a 6th round compensatory pick. So these picks can definitely go a long way

jsarno · 03-05-2008, 01:51 AM

That is just sweet...this makes up for us not having a 4th!!!

That Guy · 03-05-2008, 11:09 AM

i'll update the complete draft order with these and newly traded picks this weekend.

freddyg12 · 03-05-2008, 11:10 AM

After reading this through, it appears that he's saying the acquisition of Fletcher = the loss of Duckett. I question whether we could actually get 2 7th rnd. picks for Wright & Holdman given their playing time. Holdman was on IR all year.

the 3rd round pick would be sweet! If we got even 1 7th rounder that would just be gravy. If we got 2 I'd be really surprised, but very happy. Given our recent success w/undrafted free agents, I like the chances of a 7th rounder making the team.

03-04-2008, 11:08 PM	#16
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? Apparently the formula for determining what, if any, compensatory draft picks each club shall receive is not available to the public. Section 10 of Article XVI of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement simply states, "The rules and procedures regarding Compensatory Draft Selections ... shall be as agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA." According to a 2004 article written by ESPN's John Clayton, "The NFL Management Council determines the number and value of the compensatory picks, and it guards the secrecy of its compensatory formula like Coke guards its secret recipe. This much is known: The NFL formula is based on salary, playing time, postseason awards and the net of free agents lost versus free agents signed." So we likely will not know what, if any, compensatory draft selections we will get until after the Annual Meeting at the end of this month. A 3rd rounder would certainly be nice though.

03-04-2008, 11:16 PM	#18
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,561	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? this guy has an EXTREMELY good track record. he's been dead on for the skins the last two years (which are the only two years i've checked), so i'd place some weight on his opinion.

03-04-2008, 11:18 PM	#20
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,561	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? its FA signed, FA's lost, contract values, etc a bunch of nfl guys get in a dark room and figure it out, so it's not an exact science, but they do seem to follow guidelines fairly closely.

03-04-2008, 11:21 PM	#21
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? I wonder if the Redskins have the same sense (or maybe they already know) as this guy of what they're getting and with an extra 3rd round maybe that's another reason why they've been patient in free agency. Or if they get that extra 3rd round pick they can use their own as part of a trade...Chad Johnson? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? NFL Forum :: - Projecting the 2008 Compensatory Picks

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GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? I had no idea this was a mathematical equation. I thought it was subjective. Well, good for us! __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? Little known fact. Tom Brady was not only a 6th round pick, but he was a 6th round compensatory pick. So these picks can definitely go a long way __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 50 Posts: 9,534	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? That is just sweet...this makes up for us not having a 4th!!! __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

03-05-2008, 11:09 AM	#29
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,561	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? i'll update the complete draft order with these and newly traded picks this weekend.

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freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Another Pick In The 3rd Round? After reading this through, it appears that he's saying the acquisition of Fletcher = the loss of Duckett. I question whether we could actually get 2 7th rnd. picks for Wright & Holdman given their playing time. Holdman was on IR all year. the 3rd round pick would be sweet! If we got even 1 7th rounder that would just be gravy. If we got 2 I'd be really surprised, but very happy. Given our recent success w/undrafted free agents, I like the chances of a 7th rounder making the team.

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