Have We Seen The Last of Archuleta in a Skins Uniform?

hesscl34 · 03-13-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

On behalf of holmester (who can't start a thread of his own yet, I had thought about starting this as well actually)

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"Redskins Notes: The Redskins faced a deadline yesterday to exercise $5 million options on safety Adam Archuleta, according to league sources, and Lloyd. They executed Lloyd's option, but reached an agreement with Archuleta to push back his deadline. Both players are guaranteed the money in one form or another, but the decision to delay the move for Archuleta could be a bid to buy more time in order to trade or perhaps cut him."

So what does it all mean? Is he on the way out? Are they holding off on the option to see how much some other moves might cost? Is this much ado about nothing?

There's only one reason I want that man to stay around... and it's how his a*s looks in that all white uniform....

Schneed10 · 03-13-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

It's all relative, it would be crazy to think that AA will suddenly become a guy we can match up on even a #4 wr.
But can he match up w/a TE or play decent zone coverage in the flats? I think there's a chance of that. He consistently got beat by TEs (Witten), but if there was really a problem w/the coaching in the secondary, compounded by him losing his confidence, then it's quite possible that he could rebound to be a decent 2nd team safety at least.

He did suck in 06, no doubt, but as someone else here said, the whole D did. ST & CR both had tough years, CR seemed to take a step back from his rookie year. There were definitely system problems & AA looked the worst. Not to mention, AC hardly showed up till the 2nd half of the year.

I would judge his value based on medical history more so than last year's performance. If he really can't get back to form because of his neck or back injuries (don't know the history there), then it might be best to cut our losses. Also, if he's unhappy & will be bad for team morale.

You're dreaming. He got burned by Witten so badly with the game on the line that he flat out got laughed at by Witten. Lucky for Archuleta, Troy Vincent and Nick Novak saved the friggin day.

He's worthless, he'll never play well for us.

Schneed10 · 03-13-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

There's only one reason I want that man to stay around... and it's how his a*s looks in that all white uniform....

dmek25 · 03-13-2007, 01:03 PM

i don't believe A.A. cant improve on what was a disaster of a season for him. unless his back is alot worse then he is letting on. i say he gets one more season to make it work. unless the skins can work out a trade, which i don't see happening

skinsfan69 · 03-13-2007, 01:12 PM

I got so interested in the JC portion that I forgot the part about AA. Let him go. Turn the page. He can't cover his own shadow.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-13-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

You're dreaming. He got burned by Witten so badly with the game on the line that he flat out got laughed at by Witten. Lucky for Archuleta, Troy Vincent and Nick Novak saved the friggin day.

He's worthless, he'll never play well for us.

that is so true but he could play well if the d line got more pressure but he will never be a good cover guy cause he is too slow

Big C · 03-13-2007, 01:33 PM

i think archuleta will be with us next season unless we get a decent trade offer. i dont think we will cut him

Schneed10 · 03-13-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Big C

i think archuleta will be with us next season unless we get a decent trade offer. i dont think we will cut him

Why not?

Big C · 03-13-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Why not?

i think that some of the coaches think they can make it work, whether or not that is possible i dont know. its a big cap hit also if they cut him, i think they only take the hit if they get something in return

freddyg12 · 03-13-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

You're dreaming. He got burned by Witten so badly with the game on the line that he flat out got laughed at by Witten. Lucky for Archuleta, Troy Vincent and Nick Novak saved the friggin day.

He's worthless, he'll never play well for us.

I noted that he got burned by Witten & other TEs regularly last year. He's never been a man to man cover guy, but he's had good years w/the Rams.
My point is, Could it be that having 1 coach tell you to be aggressive in the run game & another tell you that you need to play deeper for coverage had an adverse impact on his coverage? I'd say it did, as was the case w/ST.

As I said, he'll never be a guy we want 1 on 1 w/wr's, but his coverage ability MAY not be as bad as it was last year either.

Finally, I concluded the post saying that it may be a health issue, that while he's healthy enough to play he may never regain his early career form. Anyone that thinks he slow is justified, but the dude did have blazing speed at one time. He does look like he has a hard time turning around in full sprint, almost like he has to turn his back completely around to see the ball.

If that's the case & he's damaged goods, we should definitely move on. Overall, I'd agree that he's not likely to contribute here, but maybe we saw the worst & he'll improve. If not for the bad season that several in our secondary had, I wouldn't say that.

My guess is that the front office is seeing if there's anything they can get for him or any compromise out there, but ultimately we'll be stuck w/him, and might as well try to use him.

hesscl34 · 03-13-2007, 02:31 PM

:cheeky-sm

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

skinzaholic73 · 03-13-2007, 03:36 PM

I think we should keep AA.He can still be productive for us..though he sucked last year I have a feeling he will rebound this season.

RMSkins · 03-13-2007, 06:23 PM

I really hope we give Arch another chance, he could be used greatly in certain packages if only GW was smart enough figure that out.

skinsfan_nn · 03-13-2007, 07:26 PM

ARCH CAN'T possibly have a worse season ??? CAN HE ......I say keep him around one more year, use the guy to his strengths. Let's see if we can get something outta this guy.

I'd DUMP that SORRY NO GOOD PIECE OF DUNG,etc., etc..........LLOYD FIRST!

offiss · 03-13-2007, 07:56 PM

AA want's out just as bad as we want him out, that is why they have an agreement to extend his bonus, I would be fairly sure that he is willing to kick back money if it lands him with the right team, he knows he's going to get a big check regardless, I just think he was so humilited last season that he has something to prove and knows he can't do it in Williams system, he knows his strengths and weakness's and wasen't used to his strength and from what I can remember he flat out called us liers about the condition of how he would be used when he signed. I think something will get done I just don't think he will bring back anything but some cap relief.

03-13-2007, 01:03 PM	#19
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Have We Seen The Last of Archuleta in a Skins Uniform? i don't believe A.A. cant improve on what was a disaster of a season for him. unless his back is alot worse then he is letting on. i say he gets one more season to make it work. unless the skins can work out a trade, which i don't see happening __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-13-2007, 01:12 PM	#20
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,280	Re: Have We Seen The Last of Archuleta in a Skins Uniform? I got so interested in the JC portion that I forgot the part about AA. Let him go. Turn the page. He can't cover his own shadow.

03-13-2007, 01:33 PM	#22
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	Re: Have We Seen The Last of Archuleta in a Skins Uniform? i think archuleta will be with us next season unless we get a decent trade offer. i dont think we will cut him __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

03-13-2007, 03:36 PM	#27
skinzaholic73 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 51 Posts: 78	Re: Have We Seen The Last of Archuleta in a Skins Uniform? I think we should keep AA.He can still be productive for us..though he sucked last year I have a feeling he will rebound this season.

03-13-2007, 06:23 PM	#28
RMSkins The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 36 Posts: 1,066	Re: Have We Seen The Last of Archuleta in a Skins Uniform? I really hope we give Arch another chance, he could be used greatly in certain packages if only GW was smart enough figure that out.

03-13-2007, 07:26 PM	#29
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 60 Posts: 4,495	Re: Have We Seen The Last of Archuleta in a Skins Uniform? ARCH CAN'T possibly have a worse season ??? CAN HE ......I say keep him around one more year, use the guy to his strengths. Let's see if we can get something outta this guy. I'd DUMP that SORRY NO GOOD PIECE OF DUNG,etc., etc..........LLOYD FIRST! __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

03-13-2007, 07:56 PM	#30
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Have We Seen The Last of Archuleta in a Skins Uniform? AA want's out just as bad as we want him out, that is why they have an agreement to extend his bonus, I would be fairly sure that he is willing to kick back money if it lands him with the right team, he knows he's going to get a big check regardless, I just think he was so humilited last season that he has something to prove and knows he can't do it in Williams system, he knows his strengths and weakness's and wasen't used to his strength and from what I can remember he flat out called us liers about the condition of how he would be used when he signed. I think something will get done I just don't think he will bring back anything but some cap relief.

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