Mark Sanchez at 13th?

CRedskinsRule · 04-13-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

The Washington Times is reporting today that the Redskins are could pick Sanchez at thirteen. I think if the Redskins realy are going after him they wont wait for thirteen. They will wait till the Jags pick and try to trade ip to get him. It is not in our nature to wait on a pick.

Didn't we wait last year, and then when our pick was gone, we traded down? I see that same scenario this year, and this talk of Sanchez is just smoke and mirrors - i hope.

T.O.Killa · 04-13-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Didn't we wait last year, and then when our pick was gone, we traded down? I see that same scenario this year, and this talk of Sanchez is just smoke and mirrors - i hope.

Yeah, but last year they said from day one that they wanted to trade down. This year they said they want to trade down, but they have shown an awful lot of interest in Sanchez. They also have shown that that are not in love with Campbell. The Redskins run their organization, kind of like the Mofia. Once they decide they dont like you they get rid of you. The only guy, I ever saw that did not happen to immediatly was Springs. I think it was because they just had no alternative, what so ever.

Ruhskins · 04-13-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

The Washington Times is reporting today that the Redskins are could pick Sanchez at thirteen. I think if the Redskins realy are going after him they wont wait for thirteen. They will wait till the Jags pick and try to trade ip to get him. It is not in our nature to wait on a pick.

I just went through the Washington Times website and didn't find the story. Are you thinking of the Mel Kiper mock draft? Come on man, I know you hate JC, but at least give us a link or something.

T.O.Killa · 04-13-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I just went through the Washington Times website and didn't find the story. Are you thinking of the Mel Kiper mock draft? Come on man, I know you hate JC, but at least give us a link or something.

Hey, I dont hate JC. I think he is the best role model and just a stand up guy. If the Redskins dont get rid of him, and he does well I would be the first to jump on the band wagon. With that said, I just dont think that he has the talent to lead us to the Superbowl. Even when we were 6-2, I was still skeptical. We were scoring field goals to win games that we should have blown open. I taped every game, and because I am neurotic watched them over and over again. The problem was not realy the O-Line, it was JC could not find the open reciever fast enough. Also, his dump off passes are inacurrate much of time. I think JC is a vertical passer. He is not siuted for the west coast system. Anyway, here is the link.
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SmootSmack · 04-13-2009, 01:37 PM

Why don't we actually read the story in the Washington Times?

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H.D. Woodson alum Byron Leftwich has agreed to a deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He left offers from Pittsburgh (he was a Steelers backup QB last year) and the Redskins (offered the veteran minimum last weekend) on the table.

Leftwich wants to start the Bucs give him the best chance. Josh McCown is the only candidate to start. In Pittsburgh, Ben Roethlisberger is the franchise starter; with the Redskins, Jason Campbell is the starter and Leftwich probably figured Jim Zorn would be patient with Campbell.

There aren't a lot of veterans on the market so the Redskins might be forced to stick with Todd Collins as the back up and Colt Brennan as the third stringer entering camp.

But there's one thing that could change the complexion of everything.

His name is Mark Sanchez.

If he's still on the board at No. 13, will Dan Snyder -- who tried to deal Campbell last week to Denver for Jay Cutler -- choose the USC passer and start over (again)?

It's possible. I don't think Sanchez will be on the board when the Redskins pick. San Francisco and Denver should have an interest.

Leftwich chooses Tampa - - Washington Times - Politics, Breaking News, US and World News

(Heaven forbid anyone actually read)

Monkeydad · 04-13-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Ditto.

The Goat · 04-13-2009, 02:30 PM

I mean first of all Sanchez is a big mistake for us. But second doensn't it seem like a trade-down scenario is more likely than say a month ago? Basically, teams picking in the bottom third of the draft who really want a guy like Rey, a top DE, or one of the top 2 RB will need to trade up IMHO to get what they want. Teams picking after us up through Detroit at 20 desperately need RB, LB or DE help and I just really think the top talent at those positions will be gone after the 20th pick. I say this cuz guys like Cushing have fallen a bit and there just isn't a tremendous amount of impact talent at these positions after the first few on the board. My thinking is Vinny probably wants to trade-down like he did last year, though I'm not saying this is necessarily what I want. I mean if a team wants to trade up to 13, lose picks in the process, to grab a special player shouldn't we be looking at the player for ourselves?

53Fan · 04-13-2009, 02:30 PM

Junior QBs have talent, but maturity might play bigger role in their futures

Sonny9TD · 04-13-2009, 03:02 PM

Here is our pick at 13 hopefully. Got this off another board.

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BigHairedAristocrat · 04-13-2009, 03:15 PM

Here are the facts:
1. Vinny Cerrato has publically said he wants to trade DOWN in this years draft.
2. The Redskins have 3 major needs are OT, DE, and LB and everyone knows it.
3. The Redskins, who have shown no interest in QB Jason Campbell have actively pursued Jay Cutler but were outbid at the last second by the Bears.
4. The Redskins are now actively showing interest in QB Mark Sanchez.
5. Mel Kiper says the Skins have something up their sleeve.

What do these facts tell us? Well, anything can happen, but i think there are two likely possibilities:

1. The Redskins are dead set on acquiring a franchise QB in the draft and are so determined, they don't care if everyone knows they are going to do it and it results in the move costing them much more than it otherwise would. The Redskins will attempt to trade up and draft Sanchez.

2. The Redskins will not draft a QB, or a OT, LB, or DE for that matter. They are targeting another player (likely RB or WR) and they want to make sure no one trades above them to select the player.

Right now, i'd weight the likelyhood of skins moves as follows:

A. Complete WTF Move (Drafting Moreno or trading up to draft Crabtree) - 35%
B. Drafting Mark Sanchez (possibly by trading up) - 30%
C. Trading Down - 20%
D. Drafting the best OT, LB, or DE available at 13 - 15%

Also, if Option D happens, id say there's greater than a 50% chance we trade our 2010 first rounder for additional picks.

Also, i'd say theres greater than a 50% chance that Carlos Rogers, Jason Campbell, or Santana Moss are traded on draft day. (Rogers and Moss have both been shopped this offseason. We've been unreasonably stingy despite having ample cap space. I beleive we're keeping the space to enable us to take the resulting cap hit if one of these players is traded).

Ruhskins · 04-13-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Hey, I dont hate JC. I think he is the best role model and just a stand up guy. If the Redskins dont get rid of him, and he does well I would be the first to jump on the band wagon. With that said, I just dont think that he has the talent to lead us to the Superbowl. Even when we were 6-2, I was still skeptical. We were scoring field goals to win games that we should have blown open. I taped every game, and because I am neurotic watched them over and over again. The problem was not realy the O-Line, it was JC could not find the open reciever fast enough. Also, his dump off passes are inacurrate much of time. I think JC is a vertical passer. He is not siuted for the west coast system. Anyway, here is the link.
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Hey man, I was kinda busting your chops from your the post Jay Cutler non-trade. I just checked the KFFL website and the links to the WashTimes were broken links. I was curious to know if there were other sources in addition to Mel Kiper about the team getting Sanchez at #13. Honestly, I think it's just all smoke screens.

I kinda agree with you regarding the offense, even when we were 6-2. However, I blame a lot of it on the offensive line, given that Portis was shut down in the second half of the season. I don't think we can be a balanced team, but this season our offense needs to be able to compliment the defense.

tryfuhl · 04-13-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why don't we actually read the story in the Washington Times?

Leftwich chooses Tampa - - Washington Times - Politics, Breaking News, US and World News

(Heaven forbid anyone actually read)

Doesn't sound too firm huh?

If we don't have who we want on board at 13 I'd be open to trading to let the Broncos have their 12th AND the 13th and us picking up the 18th and 48th or so, a lil more to us on the "value chart" and still gives us the chance of picking up a good guy, though at 18 you're starting to get to the end of the first round talent, I guess I'd have to ask some of you guys that value the college players whether it'd be better or indifferent to have an 18th or say a 23rd.

tryfuhl · 04-13-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

Here is our pick at 13 hopefully. Got this off another board.

YouTube - LT Andre Smith Highlights Alabama 2008

Gotta love the youth and athleticism. I almost forgot what it looked like for a DE to get around the side of an OT and have the OT rotate around with him and keep him out of the play/off of the QB.

Dr Do Itch Big · 04-13-2009, 04:41 PM

Hey Ruhskins the link is broken but here is what it said-

Redskins | Interested in Sanchez?
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Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:57:41 -0700

"Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports the Washington Redskins could possibly select Southern California QB Mark Sanchez with the No. 13 pick in the NFL Draft should Sanchez remain on the board."

tryfuhl · 04-13-2009, 04:42 PM

If we DO draft Sanchez I'd imagine he'd sit for a year right? I mean showing lack of faith in Campbell really isn't going to give us much trade bait if we decided to trade him this year and possibly less next year right?

04-13-2009, 02:30 PM	#172
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th? I mean first of all Sanchez is a big mistake for us. But second doensn't it seem like a trade-down scenario is more likely than say a month ago? Basically, teams picking in the bottom third of the draft who really want a guy like Rey, a top DE, or one of the top 2 RB will need to trade up IMHO to get what they want. Teams picking after us up through Detroit at 20 desperately need RB, LB or DE help and I just really think the top talent at those positions will be gone after the 20th pick. I say this cuz guys like Cushing have fallen a bit and there just isn't a tremendous amount of impact talent at these positions after the first few on the board. My thinking is Vinny probably wants to trade-down like he did last year, though I'm not saying this is necessarily what I want. I mean if a team wants to trade up to 13, lose picks in the process, to grab a special player shouldn't we be looking at the player for ourselves? __________________ 24-34

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04-13-2009, 03:02 PM	#174
Sonny9TD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 399	Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th? Here is our pick at 13 hopefully. Got this off another board. YouTube - LT Andre Smith Highlights Alabama 2008

04-13-2009, 03:15 PM	#175
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th? Here are the facts: 1. Vinny Cerrato has publically said he wants to trade DOWN in this years draft. 2. The Redskins have 3 major needs are OT, DE, and LB and everyone knows it. 3. The Redskins, who have shown no interest in QB Jason Campbell have actively pursued Jay Cutler but were outbid at the last second by the Bears. 4. The Redskins are now actively showing interest in QB Mark Sanchez. 5. Mel Kiper says the Skins have something up their sleeve. What do these facts tell us? Well, anything can happen, but i think there are two likely possibilities: 1. The Redskins are dead set on acquiring a franchise QB in the draft and are so determined, they don't care if everyone knows they are going to do it and it results in the move costing them much more than it otherwise would. The Redskins will attempt to trade up and draft Sanchez. 2. The Redskins will not draft a QB, or a OT, LB, or DE for that matter. They are targeting another player (likely RB or WR) and they want to make sure no one trades above them to select the player. Right now, i'd weight the likelyhood of skins moves as follows: A. Complete WTF Move (Drafting Moreno or trading up to draft Crabtree) - 35% B. Drafting Mark Sanchez (possibly by trading up) - 30% C. Trading Down - 20% D. Drafting the best OT, LB, or DE available at 13 - 15% Also, if Option D happens, id say there's greater than a 50% chance we trade our 2010 first rounder for additional picks. Also, i'd say theres greater than a 50% chance that Carlos Rogers, Jason Campbell, or Santana Moss are traded on draft day. (Rogers and Moss have both been shopped this offseason. We've been unreasonably stingy despite having ample cap space. I beleive we're keeping the space to enable us to take the resulting cap hit if one of these players is traded). __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

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Dr Do Itch Big Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 153	Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th? Hey Ruhskins the link is broken but here is what it said- Redskins \| Interested in Sanchez? Share: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:57:41 -0700 "Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports the Washington Redskins could possibly select Southern California QB Mark Sanchez with the No. 13 pick in the NFL Draft should Sanchez remain on the board." __________________ “If you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you’ve always got.” ― Henry Ford

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tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th? If we DO draft Sanchez I'd imagine he'd sit for a year right? I mean showing lack of faith in Campbell really isn't going to give us much trade bait if we decided to trade him this year and possibly less next year right?

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