What's your take on our coaching?

MTK · 10-31-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

What the hell did you expect Mike to say in the off-season?

Yeah guys, we are going with two scrub QBs this season because there is absolutely nothing available to us on the open market or draft I deem worthy at our drafting spot?

I'm not sure why people read so much into a coach's statements or sometimes don't read enough. You have to know when he's lying his ass off (as in the case with Rex/Beck being legit) and when he's giving you code messages. (it's going to take time, but we will be competitive)

Translations: Our QBs suck and we are rebuilding.

However, I doubt you have many coaches who'll say that. In fact, probably none.

Well, they did choose to pass over some viable free agents. I have a hard time believing someone like Matt Hasselbeck couldn't have come in and done a better job than what we've seen from Rex & Beck.

We've now seen 2 years in a row where they have failed big time in regard to QB decisions here.

davy · 10-31-2011, 11:20 AM

I think Kyle gets way too much credit for the Texans offense. My understanding is that it is Gary Kubiak's offense and KS was just a playcaller.

I don't remember there being too much anguish on Texans message boards when he came here, in fact quite a few posters were glad to see the back of him.

MTK · 10-31-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not too sure I can agree with you after yesterday. Buffalo is not a more talented team then we are. They're just better coached.

They have a lot of guys I'd take over ours, at least on offense. Jackson is the real deal and while no superstar Fitz is a 2nd tier type of QB who fits well in what they do. They have a bunch of no-names at WR, but they get the job done.

skinsfan69 · 10-31-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

They have a lot of guys I'd take over ours, at least on offense. Jackson is the real deal and while no superstar Fitz is a 2nd tier type of QB who fits well in what they do. They have a bunch of no-names at WR, but they get the job done.

They have a lot of no names, including Chad Rinehart.

SBXVII · 10-31-2011, 11:46 AM

I thought it was 3 to 4 weeks ago this was a team going to the SB? lol. Not really but you know what I mean. The OL is decimated. In one game our OL went to hell and a hand basket. I still feel the OL was targeted purposefully because thats what was holding the glue together. With out a decent OL you see what we have. All the other NFCE teams have had their share of OL problems but us up until the Eagles game.

I can't prove it. but I can say I still feel like Andy Reid purposefully had our OL targeted in order to benifit his outcome of the game.

Beyond that, our QB's are not top tier talented QB's. They are #2's at best. Backups. But as some others have said the offseason target was defense. Just look at it... DE/LB in the 1st round, NT in the 2nd round. Hopefully this next offseason the team focuses on QB, OL, CB, and WR. Preferably a QB in round 1.

Ruhskins · 10-31-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I thought it was 3 to 4 weeks ago this was a team going to the SB? lol. Not really but you know what I mean. The OL is decimated. In one game our OL went to hell and a hand basket. I still feel the OL was targeted purposefully because thats what was holding the glue together. With out a decent OL you see what we have. All the other NFCE teams have had their share of OL problems but us up until the Eagles game.

I can't prove it. but I can say I still feel like Andy Reid purposefully had our OL targeted in order to benifit his outcome of the game.

Beyond that, our QB's are not top tier talented QB's. They are #2's at best. Backups. But as some others have said the offseason target was defense. Just look at it... DE/LB in the 1st round, NT in the 2nd round. Hopefully this next offseason the team focuses on QB, OL, CB, and WR. Preferably a QB in round 1.

Well the Eagles cheap shotted Kory L. so you are correct there.

MTK · 10-31-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well the Eagles cheap shotted Kory L. so you are correct there.

Yeah but did Reid put them up to that?

I seriously doubt it.

CrustyRedskin · 10-31-2011, 12:03 PM

LMAO! Cheapshoting this team would be a waste of time and effort. It really looks like other teams have to go out of their way kick the skins ass.

Lotus · 10-31-2011, 12:10 PM

I don't hate Kyle for his last name. I just think he has done poorly in leading the offense.

We don't have a real QB. Kyle should have known this months ago. Yet Kyle insists on having our QB's win our games. He puts the offense on the shoulders of our QB's, not on the running game. And with Rex and Beck that is not sensible.

What we could be doing is reverting to old-school football: reliance on a solid running game and a solid defense to keep us in games. Would we win the Super Bowl this way? Probably not, not without a passing attack. But we would win a bunch of games and be a better team than we are now.

A lack of a real QB is an excuse for Kyle that only goes so far. A good coordinator finds a way to adapt and Kyle does not seem to do this well.

MTK · 10-31-2011, 12:15 PM

Problem is we can't run the ball effectively right now either. The injuries on the OL have really hurt.

skinsfan69 · 10-31-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Problem is we can't run the ball effectively right now either. The injuries on the OL have really hurt.

It's hard to run the ball with only one running play. The defense already knows what we're going to run. If that one play isn't working then time to put in some more run plays. Time to put Banks in the wildcat. Buffalo did it so why can't we? Kyle has no idea how to diversify his offense.

Ruhskins · 10-31-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's hard to run the ball with only one running play. The defense already knows what we're going to run. If that one play isn't working then time to put in some more run plays. Time to put Banks in the wildcat. Buffalo did it so why can't we? Kyle has no idea how to diversify his offense.

With the state of our o-line right now, Banks would get killed running the wildcat. I don't fault anyone for not running the ball now, but we didn't run the ball when the o-line was healthy.

skinsfan69 · 10-31-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

With the state of our o-line right now, Banks would get killed running the wildcat. I don't fault anyone for not running the ball now, but we didn't run the ball when the o-line was healthy.

Not buying it. So tired of the injury excuse. One run play isn't what I call a good game plan. How about forcing a below average defense have to prepare for more run plays?

Longtimefan · 10-31-2011, 12:33 PM

Not yet.

NC_Skins · 10-31-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well, they did choose to pass over some viable free agents. I have a hard time believing someone like Matt Hasselbeck couldn't have come in and done a better job than what we've seen from Rex & Beck.

Beck hasn't played bad in games up until yesterday. That said, do you think Hasselbeck (or even Tom Brady) would have fared any better yesterday from the play of our OL/WR?

No run block or pass blocking at all from that group yesterday.

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10-31-2011, 11:20 AM	#152
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 936	Re: What's your take on our coaching? I think Kyle gets way too much credit for the Texans offense. My understanding is that it is Gary Kubiak's offense and KS was just a playcaller. I don't remember there being too much anguish on Texans message boards when he came here, in fact quite a few posters were glad to see the back of him. __________________ “Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.”

10-31-2011, 11:46 AM	#155
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: What's your take on our coaching? I thought it was 3 to 4 weeks ago this was a team going to the SB? lol. Not really but you know what I mean. The OL is decimated. In one game our OL went to hell and a hand basket. I still feel the OL was targeted purposefully because thats what was holding the glue together. With out a decent OL you see what we have. All the other NFCE teams have had their share of OL problems but us up until the Eagles game. I can't prove it. but I can say I still feel like Andy Reid purposefully had our OL targeted in order to benifit his outcome of the game. Beyond that, our QB's are not top tier talented QB's. They are #2's at best. Backups. But as some others have said the offseason target was defense. Just look at it... DE/LB in the 1st round, NT in the 2nd round. Hopefully this next offseason the team focuses on QB, OL, CB, and WR. Preferably a QB in round 1.

10-31-2011, 12:03 PM	#158
CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,059	Re: What's your take on our coaching? LMAO! Cheapshoting this team would be a waste of time and effort. It really looks like other teams have to go out of their way kick the skins ass. __________________ Lafayette, we're here. HTTR. You wern't a bunch of losers on 10-27-14.

10-31-2011, 12:10 PM	#159
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: What's your take on our coaching? I don't hate Kyle for his last name. I just think he has done poorly in leading the offense. We don't have a real QB. Kyle should have known this months ago. Yet Kyle insists on having our QB's win our games. He puts the offense on the shoulders of our QB's, not on the running game. And with Rex and Beck that is not sensible. What we could be doing is reverting to old-school football: reliance on a solid running game and a solid defense to keep us in games. Would we win the Super Bowl this way? Probably not, not without a passing attack. But we would win a bunch of games and be a better team than we are now. A lack of a real QB is an excuse for Kyle that only goes so far. A good coordinator finds a way to adapt and Kyle does not seem to do this well. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

10-31-2011, 12:15 PM	#160
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