What's your take on our coaching?

[budw38]

Originally Posted by irish

I totally agree, Shanny took over a perennial loser with roster rot throughout the team. This kind of thing isnt turned around in a season or 2, its gonna take awhile. I think its so far so good with Shanny.

Exactly . We need better paly at QB , a WR that can get deep and also make " YAC " on offense . Defense , either 1 more big guy up front ( Maybe J. Jenkins ) , and a big down hill ILB next to Fletch . Two years ago , down 20-0 , we would have lost 41- 6 . We have F/A and nine draft pick ( plus a Comp pick for C. Rogers , I think ) . If Beck plays much better than REX , we could still win the east ?

[Alvin Walton]

I don't trust Kyle Shanahan.
Our play calling is downright bizarre at times.
I'm fine with Mike Shanahan for now.

[irish]

Originally Posted by budw38

Exactly . We need better paly at QB , a WR that can get deep and also make " YAC " on offense . Defense , either 1 more big guy up front ( Maybe J. Jenkins ) , and a big down hill ILB next to Fletch . Two years ago , down 20-0 , we would have lost 41- 6 . We have F/A and nine draft pick ( plus a Comp pick for C. Rogers , I think ) . If Beck plays much better than REX , we could still win the east ?

That's a huge if with Beck. I think the whole team needs to play better for them to win the East.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by irish

That's a huge if with Beck. I think the whole team needs to play better for them to win the East.

Yes , the team would have to play better , however with both dallas and Philly losing 3 and 4 games already , we would have a shot . Of course losing KL and TW is not going to help . I look at it this way , on OFF we are a good QB and WR away from being pretty good , defense , we have 4 guys that are either playing new postions ( Cofield / Kerrigan ) and guys with little starting experience ( Bowens /J. Wilson ) so we have done well on D .

[Lotus]

Kyle drives me nuts. To be sure, he is an excellent designer of pass plays and seems to always get someone open. But his playcalling, especially in the red zone, is suspect. And his game planning seems dim. This team needs to run to win, especially against poor run defenses, but Kyle appears to be unaware of this, just as he seemed unaware of the run when he was in Houston.

Mike has brought us a professionalism which was sorely lacking before and I appreciate it. But he lacks the necessary professional relationship with his offensive coordinator. When it is time to tweak things, does he undertake the actions appropriate for a head coach? And if/when it is time to find a new OC, will Mike recognize this and follow through appropriately?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Kyle drives me nuts. To be sure, he is an excellent designer of pass plays and seems to always get someone open. But his playcalling, especially in the red zone, is suspect. And his game planning seems dim. This team needs to run to win, especially against poor run defenses, but Kyle appears to be unaware of this, just as he seemed unaware of the run when he was in Houston.

Mike has brought us a professionalism which was sorely lacking before and I appreciate it. But he lacks the necessary professional relationship with his offensive coordinator. When it is time to tweak things, does he undertake the actions appropriate for a head coach? And if/when it is time to find a new OC, will Mike recognize this and follow through appropriately?

I'll say this about Laurainitis' pick of Rex Grossman: it was a poorly designed trap pass. For all the talk about how great of a play designer KS is, he designed a play where its a two receiver route, and the receivers (who cross off the snap) sit down in the linebacker's coverage zone. That Grossman pick was on KS.

He's definitely got a bit of John Shoop in him. I don't think he understands coverages too well, or at least the difference between anticipating man coverage and anticipating zone coverage. And I think that's an important ability of a playcaller which he doesn't have.

He could cover up a lot of these issues by calling more 4 and 5 receiver patterns. But Kyle and Mike both put a huge premium on protecting the QB. Such a huge premium that our offense is limited because of it.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'll say this about Laurainitis' pick of Rex Grossman: it was a poorly designed trap pass. For all the talk about how great of a play designer KS is, he designed a play where its a two receiver route, and the receivers (who cross off the snap) sit down in the linebacker's coverage zone. That Grossman pick was on KS.

He's definitely got a bit of John Shoop in him. I don't think he understands coverages too well, or at least the difference between anticipating man coverage and anticipating zone coverage. And I think that's an important ability of a playcaller which he doesn't have.

He could cover up a lot of these issues by calling more 4 and 5 receiver patterns. But Kyle and Mike both put a huge premium on protecting the QB. Such a huge premium that our offense is limited because of it.

There is nothing wrong with limiting the offense to protect the QB. Ball security is job one. But when you have Rex just floating it out there like Claussen did last year for the Panthers, then we have a problem. It's not a sin to punt the ball and let Haz win the game. Protect the QB, don't turn it over then you win. Kyle wants his offense to look a certain way, I just want the Redskins to win.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Kyle drives me nuts. To be sure, he is an excellent designer of pass plays and seems to always get someone open. But his playcalling, especially in the red zone, is suspect. And his game planning seems dim. This team needs to run to win, especially against poor run defenses, but Kyle appears to be unaware of this, just as he seemed unaware of the run when he was in Houston.

Mike has brought us a professionalism which was sorely lacking before and I appreciate it. But he lacks the necessary professional relationship with his offensive coordinator. When it is time to tweak things, does he undertake the actions appropriate for a head coach? And if/when it is time to find a new OC, will Mike recognize this and follow through appropriately?

Brilliant post Lotus. This sharpens up the concerns I wanted to express.

Good point as well about the offensive scheme in Houston! I don't think that team developed a dominant ground attack until Kyle left, and now we seem to see him "wasting" our talent in that regard. It's pretty ironic considering Mike's history as one of the sports most successful rushing-scheme coaches.

As others have said w/ injuries to the o-line the best way to get that unit going is to run the rock and grind away at the defense. Committing to the run is also a great idea when half your QB's completions are to the wrong effing team.

...hate you Kyle lol.