The Manti Te'o Dead Girlfriend Hoax Web of Lies

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

The longer it takes for teo to respond, the more I know he's a liar.

I just want now at this point, for teo to say "I am a gay man who has covered up his sexuality with an Internet lie. I am truly sorry. I did bad in the national championship because I had just found out AJ McCarron wasn't gay, and it broke my heart." (ok well maybe not the last part)

You act like he owes you something. He doesn't have to say shit to you or joe public. He didn't gain anything from this but embarrassment.

Put the fawking tin foil hats back on the roll or go broil something with it.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He could have talked to someone on the phone.

I don't care how involved in a hoax someone is, they wouldn't talk to him, on the phone, all night as he claims. But he claims lots of conflicting things.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Wrong. Others have written the same thing. As a matter of fact the article that Smoot posted in the other thread references the fact that rite after her death is when his Heisman campaign went full throttle. The whole deal with Te'o was his courage to play in the face of all that adversity

That very well may be the case, but I'm simply speculating on what most likely happened. To be honest, I haven't read much on it, nor do I care to. To me, it's a non-story. A dude lying (or tricked) about a girlfriend on the intrawebz. Whether it was some grand scheme or he's a innocent victim doesn't really concern me. If he did lie about her death to gain sympathy, it's a pretty douche bag thing to do and maybe karma bites him in the ass one day.

As far as the Heisman, there wasn't any stopping the Johnny Football train. Last I checked, they don't give out sympathy votes for the Heisman. If it was a plan, it was a bad one.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

That very well may be the case, but I'm simply speculating on what most likely happened. To be honest, I haven't read much on it, nor do I care to. To me, it's a non-story. A dude lying (or tricked) about a girlfriend on the intrawebz. Whether it was some grand scheme or he's a innocent victim doesn't really concern me. If he did lie about her death to gain sympathy, it's a pretty douche bag thing to do and maybe karma bites him in the ass one day.

As far as the Heisman, there wasn't any stopping the Johnny Football train. Last I checked, they don't give out sympathy votes for the Heisman. If it was a plan, it was a bad one.

Ive read all about it and i am still floored by this. It is becoming increasingly difficult to believe he was so naive. I think he believed at first she was real, and somewhere along the line things went out of control.

[MTK]

For those that don't seem to think this is a big deal, would you draft him? And would you spend a 1st round pick on him?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

For those that don't seem to think this is a big deal, would you draft him? And would you spend a 1st round pick on him?

Hell no. I don't think its a huge deal (yet. my opinion could change as more facts become available) but I think the fact he's become a media spectacle and he's not even in the NFL yet hurts his draft stock.

[SmootSmack]

Much of what made him so valuable in NFL scouts eyes were the intangibles-leadership, character, integrity-all that is in serious question right now.

I think the whole thing is fascinating. And if he was in on it, which I think he was, I don't think you just brush it off with "well some people who fell for it donated to cancer research" so it's all good.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Ive read all about it and i am still floored by this. It is becoming increasingly difficult to believe he was so naive. I think he believed at first she was real, and somewhere along the line things went out of control.

I'm thinking he's just a liar and perhaps has some issues upstairs.

Often the most simple explanation makes the most sense.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I've actually been wondering about how an openly gay player would be accepted in the locker room. I'm sure, publically, players and coaches would say the right things and show support. However, I can see alot of guys being uncomfortable changing clothes, showering, etc. in presence of an openly gay player. However, if you arrange a seperate area for that player to change/shower, then youre isolating him and he doesnt feel like he's "part of the team."

I can also see opposing team players saying some really awful things on the field. Players talk smack and i sure they insult eachothers mothers and use derroagotory slang for gays when talking to eachother all the time - its a reality that smack talk is part of the game. Would players be sensitive to the gay players feelings, and obstain from "gay-related" smack talk? Or would it give them extra ammunition to say some really awful things - not only to the player, but to his team mates?

Right or wrong, as a practical matter, i could understand a gay player's making up a story to cover over his sexual preference. And while thats a popular theory thats been speculated on here, and other places, i dont see it. Some of his teammates say he really loved talking about his imaginary girlfriend and relished the attention. It could be he's just an attention whore.

There are already active gay NFL players that teammates know about. No one talks about it but there there.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

For those that don't seem to think this is a big deal, would you draft him? And would you spend a 1st round pick on him?

I think its a huge deal but i would still draft him. Call me crazy. If he has a good combine than yea i would spend a first rd pick on him.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm thinking he's just a liar and perhaps has some issues upstairs.

Often the most simple explanation makes the most sense.

That imo would be the biggest shock of all. To find out this was all an elaborate hoax on his part for apparently no reason. Omg.
Edit: to watch this guy go from being some sort of golden boy, full of faith and drive to possible looney is just so bizzare. If indeed he is lying about it all.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are already active gay NFL players that teammates know about. No one talks about it but there there.

Now I'm interested. Throw that bone out there and people can't help to wonder who. Especially if they're on the Skins!

Damn, I'm such a gossip.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Now I'm interested. Throw that bone out there and people can't help to wonder who. Especially if they're on the Skins!

Damn, I'm such a gossip.

Well of course we all are.

But guess what ... I am pretty sure they'll speak out when they're ready. Until then, none of my damn business.

Would anyone here be bothered by a gay teammate?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Much of what made him so valuable in NFL scouts eyes were the intangibles-leadership, character, integrity-all that is in serious question right now.

I think the whole thing is fascinating. And if he was in on it, which I think he was, I don't think you just brush it off with "well some people who fell for it donated to cancer research" so it's all good.

Yeah, kind my thoughts on the matter.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Well of course we all are.

But guess what ... I am pretty sure they'll speak out when they're ready. Until then, none of my damn business.

Would anyone here be bothered by a gay teammate?

Not one iota.