The Legitimacy of Super Bowls 17 & 22

CrustyRedskin · 10-19-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Redskins 1987 replacement star Tony Robinson just happy to be out of jail - The Washington Post

IMO they should have gotten SB rings.

REDSKINS4ever · 10-19-2012, 01:22 AM

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I disagree, those Giants teams had to beat the 49ers to get to the SB, they almost killed Joe Montana in 1986 and won in SF in 1990 when Lawrence Taylor caused and recovered the Roger Craig fumble. Bill Parcell's had Bill Walsh's number. To be honest with you, I despised the 49ers (still do) so much that I was happy for the G-men. Whether you like them or not you have to give them credit.

I don't know which part of my post you were quoting. I didn't say that the 1990 NY Giants were a bad team. They were very decent. They won SB 25 by only a point. Norwood makes that last second FG and Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas have their SB ring.

SFREDSKIN · 10-19-2012, 01:26 AM

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I don't know which part of my post you were quoting. I didn't say that the 1990 NY Giants were a bad team. They were very decent. They won SB 25 by only a point. Norwood makes that last second FG and Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas have their SB ring.

1986 team. They kicked the 49ers ass and Redskins 17-0, granted it was Jay Schroeder at the helm for the Redskins. Even if it was wide right in 1990, they won the SB and earned the right to be there by beating some tough opponents.

Gary84Clark · 10-18-2012, 11:10 PM

Super bowl 17 playoff structure was a 16 team tournament NO BYES.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 10-18-2012, 11:18 PM

SB 17 & 22 are MORE legitimate because of the strikes. It is a testament to great coaching and a great organization to win with the level playing field of replacement players....and the Skins never had a player cross the picket line. In 1987 they were the ONLY team with no players to cross. So NYG had some regular players, while the Skins were all replacements, and the Skins still prevailed.

BS argument by NYG fans who aren't the brightest anyway.

SFREDSKIN · 10-18-2012, 11:39 PM

Skins won games with scabs and regular players, even upsetting the Dallas Cowboys fielding 7 of their best players vs none for Washington. Joe Gibbs greatness and coaching, Bobby Beathard providing the talent, was what won those SB's, strike or no strike.

Giantone · 10-19-2012, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Being from Washington D.C. and living in NYC, a lot of NY Giants fans like to claim that the Redskins victories over the Miami Dolphins and the Denver Broncos in Super Bowls 17 and 22 are not legit simply because they happened only because NFL players strikes shortened those seasons. What they don't realize is that that 1982 team was good enough to not only amass the most points in a season in NFL history the next season and return to the Super Bowl, had it won it would have been considered the greatest team off all time.

As far as the 1987 team, they had made it to the NFC championship game and lost against the NYG the previous year. To be good enough to go that far and then go back the next season not only reveals how good a team the 1987 team was, but like the 1982 team, proves it's legitimacy.

The Giants fans are drunk with their chest poked out only because they've won 2 Super Bowls in the past 5 years. Their arrogance blinds them to reality, I often tell them. But their day is coming when under Coach Coughlin they will endure a miserable losing season.

I seek the true insight of Redskins Nation on this topic. Thoughts?

LOL....ok,

1) Giant fans don't really care about super bowl ,17 and 22.

2) Eli, maybe he isn't elite ,eli has 2 rings,eli has 2 MVP trophies....and Eli will be in the HOF,like it or not.

REDSKINS4ever · 10-19-2012, 06:17 AM

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LOL....ok,

1) Giant fans don't really care about super bowl ,17 and 22.

2) Eli, maybe he isn't elite ,eli has 2 rings,eli has 2 MVP trophies....and Eli will be in the HOF,like it or not.

Firstly, I wouldn't have mentioned this topic unless it were true. Giants fans in NYC are quick to say that there are asterisks marked by the Redskins two Super Bowl wins in the 1980s. They are certainly quick to point that out. I've been living in New York City for seven years and when the topic is discussed about great Super Bowl teams, NY Midgets fans are fast to bring that up and they are the only fans to make mention of it. A strike season doesn't matter. When a team wins the Super Bowl and the NFL commissioner hands the organization the trophy, that alone makes it legit. It's similar to a President being sworn into office.

Eli Manning's career isn't over yet. Two Super Bowl MVPs doesn't guarantee that he'll enter the HOF. He has a long ways to go.

Giantone · 10-19-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Firstly, I wouldn't have mentioned this topic unless it were true. Giants fans in NYC are quick to say that there are asterisks marked by the Redskins two Super Bowl wins in the 1980s. They are certainly quick to point that out. I've been living in New York City for seven years and when the topic is discussed about great Super Bowl teams, NY Midgets fans are fast to bring that up and they are the only fans to make mention of it. A strike season doesn't matter. When a team wins the Super Bowl and the NFL commissioner hands the organization the trophy, that alone makes it legit. It's similar to a President being sworn into office.

Eli Manning's career isn't over yet. Two Super Bowl MVPs doesn't guarantee that he'll enter the HOF. He has a long ways to go.

Pretty sure they do it to piss you off.Pretty sure I know a few Giant fans also, I'm telling you they don't care.
...........and keep telling yourself that stuff about Eli.

mredskins · 10-19-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL....ok,

1) Giant fans don't really care about super bowl ,17 and 22.

2) Eli, maybe he isn't elite ,eli has 2 rings,eli has 2 MVP trophies....and Eli will be in the HOF,like it or not.

Yet some care enough to post on a Redskin's fan board.

Skinzman · 10-19-2012, 10:34 AM

I dont know why they wouldnt be considered legit. The Redskins used all scabs, most teams had a fair amount of their players crossing the picket lines. The Skins had none cross it. If anything, it shows that Joe Gibbs out coached the NFL by a very wide margin since most teams still had NFL talent on the roster during those scab games. He went 3-0 with players off the street (or out of Jail in Robinsons case).

KI Skins Fan · 10-19-2012, 10:37 AM

I don't question any team's NFL championship(s). The NFL landscape may change from season to season but the mission remains the same. Everybody knows that.

firstdown · 10-19-2012, 11:02 AM

Well if it was that easy why didn't the Giants when the SB those years.

CrustyRedskin · 10-19-2012, 11:07 AM

Ravens D

to Kerry Collins.

mredskins · 10-19-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well if it was that easy why didn't the Giants when the SB those years.

Basically that is the best defense to anyone who lessens those SB's. After you say that the point is moot.

10-18-2012, 11:10 PM	#4
Gary84Clark Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,035	Re: The Legitimacy of Super Bowls 17 & 22 Super bowl 17 playoff structure was a 16 team tournament NO BYES.

10-18-2012, 11:18 PM	#5
Slingin Sammy 33 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 4,347	Re: The Legitimacy of Super Bowls 17 & 22 SB 17 & 22 are MORE legitimate because of the strikes. It is a testament to great coaching and a great organization to win with the level playing field of replacement players....and the Skins never had a player cross the picket line. In 1987 they were the ONLY team with no players to cross. So NYG had some regular players, while the Skins were all replacements, and the Skins still prevailed. BS argument by NYG fans who aren't the brightest anyway. __________________ "I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996. Last edited by Slingin Sammy 33; 10-18-2012 at 11:24 PM.

10-18-2012, 11:39 PM	#6
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: The Legitimacy of Super Bowls 17 & 22 Skins won games with scabs and regular players, even upsetting the Dallas Cowboys fielding 7 of their best players vs none for Washington. Joe Gibbs greatness and coaching, Bobby Beathard providing the talent, was what won those SB's, strike or no strike. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

10-19-2012, 10:34 AM	#11
Skinzman The Starter Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,066	Re: The Legitimacy of Super Bowls 17 & 22 I dont know why they wouldnt be considered legit. The Redskins used all scabs, most teams had a fair amount of their players crossing the picket lines. The Skins had none cross it. If anything, it shows that Joe Gibbs out coached the NFL by a very wide margin since most teams still had NFL talent on the roster during those scab games. He went 3-0 with players off the street (or out of Jail in Robinsons case).

10-19-2012, 10:37 AM	#12
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,412	Re: The Legitimacy of Super Bowls 17 & 22 I don't question any team's NFL championship(s). The NFL landscape may change from season to season but the mission remains the same. Everybody knows that. __________________ I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!

10-19-2012, 11:02 AM	#13
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: The Legitimacy of Super Bowls 17 & 22 Well if it was that easy why didn't the Giants when the SB those years.

10-19-2012, 11:07 AM	#14
CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,062	Re: The Legitimacy of Super Bowls 17 & 22 Ravens D to Kerry Collins. __________________ Lafayette, we're here. HTTR. You wern't a bunch of losers on 10-27-14.

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