2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

as FD mentioned, last I checked it wasn't the gov'ts job to "give" wealth to anyone. In your post you mention "redistributing" wealth.....shows clearly what side of the spectrum you fall under.....I'd say far left of 12th and saden. Nothing in the Romney/Paul plan takes from the middle class and gives to the "rich", another typical lib talking point.

I don't recall saying that the government needed to give wealth to the poor. The can however tax the rich people appropriately so guys like Mitt Romney can't get lower tax brackets than those who have much less. Nothing in Romney/Paul plan takes away from middle class? Really? The plan would actually increase taxes on the middle class, yet cut taxes for the upper class.

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

This is your insight, outright lies and distortions of Ryan's plan by; the Center for American Progress, Ezra Klein and the Atlantic (plus an article from 2011), all left-wing hacks. LOL, again par for the course with you. How about I give you some insight so you can get your head out of your ass:

How about this source?

Would Paul Ryan's budget give Mitt Romney zero taxes? - latimes.com

Yeah. Dude outright lies? Come on man. Left wing hacks that were truthful? So in other words, you have nothing to retort with or can't disprove any of it. Gotcha.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

How about this source?

Would Paul Ryan's budget give Mitt Romney zero taxes? - latimes.com

Yeah. Dude outright lies? Come on man. Left wing hacks that were truthful? So in other words, you have nothing to retort with or can't disprove any of it. Gotcha.

Certainly not unbiased, but better. At least they put forth some facts: "Whether the attack is true or not depends on which version of Ryan’s plan one looks at....." Obama campaign folks are touting a 2010 proposal.....which Romney opposed and he's at the top of the ticket.

"the latest version of the Ryan budget, which the House approved this spring, leaves the fate of capital gains taxes uncertain. The plan would change the income tax by moving from the current six rates to two — 10% and 25% — and would cut other taxes to the tune of $4.5 trillion over the next decade, over and above the tax cuts enacted under George W. Bush, which it would keep in place. But it makes no specific proposal about capital gains."

The left doesn't mention Ryan's budget proposal also closes tax loopholes for the rich. It also lowers the rate for the middle-class. In all, Ryan’s budget spends $1.028 trillion during the upcoming fiscal year, less than the $1.047 trillion cap approved by Congress last year and built into Obama’s budget. In the long run, it reduces federal spending from 24 percent of the GDP to 20 percent by 2015 and will balance by 2040.

But facts aren't good for Obama's re-election so the left will play the class-warfare card and many will unfortunately buy-in.


Outright lie #1 from your link on Big Oil: "It ends the guarantee of decent insurance for senior citizens, breaking Medicare’s bedrock promise."

I debuked this in an earlier post.