2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by saden1

Interesting...CPAC speech.

"I think that if you take...and apply it to the action of the son...these are the guys I call Obama's founding fathers...this isn't just a, kinda hit job on Obama...I'm a college professor and the film is a journey...if the american people really knew who Obama was they would see he is not an ordinary democrat."


Any idea if the movie a comedy or a tragedy?

Perhaps it falls in Shakespear's third category, a history?


I heard an interview about a month or so ago about this movie and it sounded pretty interesting. The director basically stated that conservitive documentries dont exist and that this is one form of media that liberals have used and done so well. He said a lot of his scripters/filmers/editors were all people that had experience with Moore or other liberal movie makers, and that in the process some of them turned conservative on many issues.......

But honestly, I watched the trailer to this thing this morning and it looks like it sucks pretty bad.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Perhaps it falls in Shakespear's third category, a history?


I heard an interview about a month or so ago about this movie and it sounded pretty interesting. The director basically stated that conservitive documentries dont exist and that this is one form of media that liberals have used and done so well. He said a lot of his scripters/filmers/editors were all people that had experience with Moore or other liberal movie makers, and that in the process some of them turned conservative on many issues.......

But honestly, I watched the trailer to this thing this morning and it looks like it sucks pretty bad.

A movie based on suppositions doesn't make for a quality movie. It looks like dog shit but if they can get people to go watch it and make some change then it was worth is. In any case, is there any particular liberal movie you would like to compare this to?


As for people turning, well, people don't turn conservative...plus these conservative and liberal labels don't mean much these days because there are so many facets to individuals. African American's by and large consider themselves conservative but they are no conservative in voting sense.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by saden1

A movie based on suppositions doesn't make for a quality movie. It looks like dog shit but if they can get people to go watch it and make some change then it was worth is. In any case, is there any particular liberal movie you would like to compare this to?


As for people turning, well, people don't turn conservative...plus these conservative and liberal labels don't mean much these days because there are so many facets to individuals. African American's by and large consider themselves conservative but they are no conservative in voting sense.

I couldnt agree with you any more on your first 2 sentences.

Honestly i havent really seen any explicitly liberal movie/documentaries. Ive never seen a Moore flick, i never saw Al Gore's polar bear film. Ive saw Lose Change, but i dont know if id classify that as explicitly liberal or a documentary, rather just a conspiracy theory movie. It scared me though how easy it is to put something together thats captivating, persuasive and logical, yet sooooo factually flawed and misleading. Do you have any suggestions for me?

Im not sure what youre trying to say. Like people dont change? Can people not turn liberal either?

I actually put together a long winded response to your post yesterday, but decided not to post it.... too many digressions too many thoughts. In general i was thinking about how polarized it seems our country has become. I completely agree that conservative and liberal, left and right, totally lame and completely whack, no longer fit the population in general. All are regularly being used misleadingly and in different ways to change the traditional connotations.