2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm confused. Which is it with you guys? Was he responsible or not? According to you guys, he's not responsible for the actions of the company from '99-'02. Fine, if that's the stance you want to take, then you are agreeing that he lied to the SEC during those 3 years by signing documents and having him listed as the President/CEO.


Sammy is saying that Romney wasn't in charge of Bain from '99-'02 and even posted links. If what Sammy is said is true, then he lied to the SEC.


Again, it has to be one or the other.

Which laws did he break if your saying he broke a law?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Which laws did he break if your saying he broke a law?

If he left the company in 1999, then his name shouldn't have been on the company's SEC filings as listed at the CEO. We call this falsifying documents or lying.


He's claiming he left the company in 1999. (to escape the bad deeds from Bain)


SEC documents show he didn't leave the company.



So, I ask again. Which is it?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

If he left the company in 1999, then his name shouldn't have been on the company's SEC filings as listed at the CEO. We call this falsifying documents or lying.


He's claiming he left the company in 1999. (to escape the bad deeds from Bain)


SEC documents show he didn't leave the company.



So, I ask again. Which is it?

You need to start reading your own links. He relinquished control of the company. I really do not know how all that works but if there was any wrong doing it would have come out by now when he ran for govoner.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You need to start reading your own links. He relinquished control of the company. I really do not know how all that works but if there was any wrong doing it would have come out by now when he ran for govoner.

If he "relinquished control" in 1999, then the documents on the SEC filings were inaccurate and were indeed a felony.


You guys are flip flopping worse than Romney.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You need to start reading your own links. He relinquished control of the company. I really do not know how all that works but if there was any wrong doing it would have come out by now when he ran for govoner.

Can you tell me what constitutions relinquishment of control and when did he relinquish control?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

If he left the company in 1999, then his name shouldn't have been on the company's SEC filings as listed at the CEO. We call this falsifying documents or lying.


He's claiming he left the company in 1999. (to escape the bad deeds from Bain)


SEC documents show he didn't leave the company.



So, I ask again. Which is it?

You're choosing to not read the links or just being obtuse:

from the WaPo link: "We consulted with securities law experts, with many years of experience with these forms. One expert examined this document at our request. He suspected that someone had simply duplicated a filing that had been made many times before, though he acknowledged, “it looks inartful in retrospect.” He pointed out that the titles are basically meaningless, that someone can be listed as a chief executive and actually have no responsibilities whatsoever. "

also: "Moreover, there is another document — the 2002 Massachusetts Ballot Law Commission report that certified that Romney could run for governor. The findings in this report were the result of weeks of testimony and investigation. We have embedded the report below."
Romney Ballot Law Commission Decision

Game, set, and MATCH. Move on.

How about some answers on Rezko, Bill Ayers, billions in green energy pay-offs to Obama bundlers, Fast & Furious, the crappy economy, etc., etc., etc. As usual Obama supporters won't respond to those questions, or they respond with typical Dem/lib talking points that have no substance.

[NC_Skins]

Hey guys, it's ok. Obama while being the President, wasn't really in charge these past 3-1/2 years. Yeah, he took a leave of absence and left Congress in charge, even though he's listed as our President and Commander in Chief. This absolves him of any wrong doing the past few years, and none of it should be held against him, unless of course it's positive, in which case, use it!!

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

He pointed out that the titles are basically meaningless, that someone can be listed as a chief executive and actually have no responsibilities whatsoever. "

So now titles doesn't mean anything? Sweet. President Obama, your title of President of the United States means you can escape any criticism thrown your way. Yup, being listed as POTUS and

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

How about some answers on Rezko, Bill Ayers, billions in green energy pay-offs to Obama bundlers, Fast & Furious, the crappy economy, etc., etc., etc. As usual Obama supporters won't respond to those questions, or they respond with typical Dem/lib talking points that have no substance.

LOLOLOL Obama supporter? You're cute when you spout fallacies.




..and

President Obama Signed the National Defense Authorization Act - Now What? - Forbes

..and

Obama approves extension of expiring Patriot Act provisions - CNN

..and





...and

McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers - USATODAY.com

..etc


Still got a chuckle out of that "Obama supporter" comment.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

LOLOLOL Obama supporter? You're cute when you spout fallacies.

Still got a chuckle out of that "Obama supporter" comment.

As FD mentioned a while back your posts are 10 - 1 supporting Obama/Dems/liberal issues and/or bashing conservatives/GOP vs. the other way around.

and no one on the left (or anyone who claims to be "down the middle" LOLOLOL) has any reasonable answers for any of my questions.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

As FD mentioned a while back your posts are 10 - 1 supporting Obama/Dems/liberal issues and/or bashing conservatives/GOP vs. the other way around.

and no one on the left (or anyone who claims to be "down the middle" LOLOLOL) has any reasonable answers for any of my questions.

I post my stuff as they arise. I also don't post garbage like Fox News. I can certainly dig and find you 2 year old related stuff if you like, but I do like to keep current. Obama lost my vote long ago; however, I have to correct people on inaccuracies or their half-truths.

Also, the reason I'm supporting the dems/liberal/obama issues is that quite frankly, the Republicans have been the bigger idiots as of late. You only need to look at who they are parading out for Presidential election to see that.