2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[saden1]

Man, she's pretty and smart which makes for a pretty deadly attack dog...scary.

Dem aide on Bain: If Romney wasn't in charge, who was? - CBS News


The full episode is even more deadly...the guy working for Romney is not having a good time that's for sure.

July 15: Cutter, Madden, Ryan & more - CBS News Video

[Slingin Sammy 33]

This says it all, straight from Obama:

Obama to business owners: 'You didn't build that' | Fox News

To this I say BS. The gov't doesn't put in 50+ hour (many put in 60-70 hours) workweeks. The gov't didn't give me travel vouchers for my family to be with me when it was necessary to be on the road for work. The gov't doesn't study for you to make strong academic achievement. The gov't doesn't come up with inventive or more productive ideas (sometimes defense R & D has made breakthoughs....but Obama and the Ds are ready to hammer defense spending). The gov't doesn't guarantee investment risks (unless its Solyndra or another Obama bundler). The gov't certainly has never bailed me out of anything. All the while folks who have worked and sacrificed for their own success are mandated to pay an even higher percentage of taxes????

I paid a hell of alot more for those roads than most, is there a special HTP (Highly Taxed Person) lane so I don't need to sit in traffic? BTW most roads are funded either by state funds or the FHWA which is funded primarily from gasoline taxes. As far as education goes that comment is complete BS as only 6% of education funding comes from the feds and it comes with a lot more strings than it's worth. The internet was originally a comm system funded by DOD between universities.....the mass expansion was funded by private investments and I pay monthly for my internet service.

I wish Obama and the Dems would just change their party name to Democratic Socialist Party and be who they really are.

[Giantone]

Hit the link for the 35 questions

35 Questions Mitt Romney Must Answer About Bain Capital Before The Issue Can Go Away - Forbes

Unfortunately for the Romney Campaign, the slew of TV interviews did little to satisfy the media. In times of crisis, a strong candidate will come up with answers that satisfy the basic questions surrounding the controversy and will make people want to move on to another subject. Romney, however, could not seem to come up with basic messages that resolved the controversies. Many of his answers seemed evasive or overly legalistic. The biggest problem for Romney is that all of his interviews have only increased the questions that political observers, voters and the media have regarding the subject of Bain Capital.
Specifically, Romney is going to have to answer the following 35 questions before this issue subsides:

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Hit the link for the 35 questions

35 Questions Mitt Romney Must Answer About Bain Capital Before The Issue Can Go Away - Forbes

Unfortunately for the Romney Campaign, the slew of TV interviews did little to satisfy the media. In times of crisis, a strong candidate will come up with answers that satisfy the basic questions surrounding the controversy and will make people want to move on to another subject. Romney, however, could not seem to come up with basic messages that resolved the controversies. Many of his answers seemed evasive or overly legalistic. The biggest problem for Romney is that all of his interviews have only increased the questions that political observers, voters and the media have regarding the subject of Bain Capital.
Specifically, Romney is going to have to answer the following 35 questions before this issue subsides:

Why aswer the questions when fact check can answer the question?

FactCheck.org : Romney’s Bain Years: New Evidence, Same Conclusion

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Hit the link for the 35 questions

35 Questions Mitt Romney Must Answer About Bain Capital Before The Issue Can Go Away - Forbes

“”If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from….You make a big election about small things,” ” – Barack Obama 08/28/08


All these questions have been answered in the WaPo link and FD's Politifact link. The Dems in MA tried the lame Bain attacks when Romney was vetted for Gov. Shall we revisit Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, etc.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

“”If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from….You make a big election about small things,” ” – Barack Obama 08/28/08


All these questions have been answered in the WaPo link and FD's Politifact link. The Dems in MA tried the lame Bain attacks when Romney was vetted for Gov. Shall we revisit Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, etc.

Help me understand all this stuff you keep posting...am I to understand that:


It is possible for someone to be 100% owner, chariman of the board, CEO and president and not be responsible for their company's actions but it is possible to build a company all on your own and take 100% responsibility for all of its success.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

“”If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from….You make a big election about small things,” ” – Barack Obama 08/28/08


All these questions have been answered in the WaPo link and FD's Politifact link. The Dems in MA tried the lame Bain attacks when Romney was vetted for Gov. Shall we revisit Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, etc.

Sammy just answer one,

If it wasn't Mitt at the helm,who was it and why did Mitt sign the papers?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Sammy just answer one,

If it wasn't Mitt at the helm,who was it and why did Mitt sign the papers?

Read the links FD and I posted, all the answers are there. If this is all the Ds have.....saden needs to get his checkbook out.

Since FD & I have answered questions (quite effectively), how about someone answer a question for me:

- What exactly was Obama's role in approving the Solyndra loan when their financial model was $hit and they had a failed IPO? $ 535M in TAXPAYER money stolen from the American people by Obama and his cronies. While you guys are trying to tie Romney to Bain (private corporation) to say he outsourced some jobs, you're OK with Obama funneling hundreds of millions to crooks that steal taxpayer money and cost over 1000 jobs.

Solyndra e-mails show Obama fundraiser discussed effort to win White House help - The Washington Post

Obama Fundraiser Pushed Solyndra Deal From Inside - ABC News

and Solyndra is just the tip of the iceberg:
Forget Bain — Obama’s public-equity record is the real scandal - The Washington Post

from the above link: All that cronyism and corruption is catching up with the administration. According to Politico, “The Energy Department’s inspector general has launched more than 100 criminal investigations” related to the department’s green-energy programs.

Answers?

and so NC Skins, 12th, and saden can't complain about "partisan" links....the links are from left-leaning media outlets.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Read the links FD and I posted, all the answers are there. If this is all the Ds have.....saden needs to get his checkbook out.

Since FD & I have answered questions (quite effectively), how about someone answer a question for me:

- What exactly was Obama's role in approving the Solyndra loan when their financial model was $hit and they had a failed IPO? $ 535M in TAXPAYER money stolen from the American people by Obama and his cronies. While you guys are trying to tie Romney to Bain (private corporation) to say he outsourced some jobs, you're OK with Obama funneling hundreds of millions to crooks that steal taxpayer money and cost over 1000 jobs.

Solyndra e-mails show Obama fundraiser discussed effort to win White House help - The Washington Post

Obama Fundraiser Pushed Solyndra Deal From Inside - ABC News

and Solyndra is just the tip of the iceberg:
Forget Bain — Obama’s public-equity record is the real scandal - The Washington Post

from the above link: All that cronyism and corruption is catching up with the administration. According to Politico, “The Energy Department’s inspector general has launched more than 100 criminal investigations” related to the department’s green-energy programs.

Answers?

and so NC Skins, 12th, and saden can't complain about "partisan" links....the links are from left-leaning media outlets.

LOL, left-leaning media outlets have conservative writers such as Marc A. Thiessen who happens to be AEI fellow, former chief speech writer for Bush and masterful political hack who titles his opinion columns "Forget Bain....."

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by saden1

Man, she's pretty and smart which makes for a pretty deadly attack dog...scary.

Dem aide on Bain: If Romney wasn't in charge, who was? - CBS News

She clowned that guy...lol Romney better get on the phone and hire that woman ASAP.


I'll say this about the whole "Bain Captial" thing. Romney can't have it both ways, he can't claim to be in charge of Bain during the good years, and not in charge when they ship jobs overseas and other businesses go bankrupt. You can't have you cake and eat it to.

Fact of the matter is, if your name is on that SEC document saying you are in charge, you are in charge and are responsible whether you are making decisions or not. It's like she said, either you are lying to the American people or you are lying to the SEC.

I personally believe he was lying to the SEC. Was he running the ship during those 3 years? Most likely not, but had his company been a beacon of light during those years he's claiming to be absent, you can rest assure he would be saying he was in charge.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Fact of the matter is, if your name is on that SEC document saying you are in charge, you are in charge and are responsible whether you are making decisions or not. It's like she said, either you are lying to the American people or you are lying to the SEC.

I personally believe he was lying to the SEC. Was he running the ship during those 3 years? Most likely not, but had his company been a beacon of light during those years he's claiming to be absent, you can rest assure he would be saying he was in charge.

Romney was busy saving the 2002 Olympics for the USA. This article from the NY Times, certainly no friend of conservatives:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/us...pagewanted=all

Again, all the Bain crap was vetted thoroughly by the Ds in MA when Romney ran for Gov. It had no teeth then and has no teeth now.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Romney was busy saving the 2002 Olympics for the USA. This article from the NY Times, certainly no friend of conservatives:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/us...pagewanted=all

Again, all the Bain crap was vetted thoroughly by the Ds in MA when Romney ran for Gov. It had no teeth then and has no teeth now.

So you are saying he committed a felony by lying to the SEC right? It has to be one or the other.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

So you are saying he committed a felony by lying to the SEC right? It has to be one or the other.

No the left is trying to say he lied to the SEC.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

No the left is trying to say he lied to the SEC.

I'm confused. Which is it with you guys? Was he responsible or not? According to you guys, he's not responsible for the actions of the company from '99-'02. Fine, if that's the stance you want to take, then you are agreeing that he lied to the SEC during those 3 years by signing documents and having him listed as the President/CEO.


Sammy is saying that Romney wasn't in charge of Bain from '99-'02 and even posted links. If what Sammy is said is true, then he lied to the SEC.


Again, it has to be one or the other.


Sammy is saying he wasn't in charge because he was at the Olympics, and ultimately lied to the SEC.


You (FD) are saying he was in charge and didn't lie to the SEC. Right?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm confused. Which is it with you guys? Was he responsible or not? According to you guys, he's not responsible for the actions of the company from '99-'02. Fine, if that's the stance you want to take, then you are agreeing that he lied to the SEC during those 3 years by signing documents and having him listed as the President/CEO.


Sammy is saying that Romney wasn't in charge of Bain from '99-'02 and even posted links. If what Sammy is said is true, then he lied to the SEC.


Again, it has to be one or the other.

Which laws did he break if your saying he broke a law?