2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[12thMan]

Look, I've pretty much resigned myself the reality that Congress is what it is. The voters will and should hold the president accountable on November 6 regardless of the clear obstructionism we've witnessed over the past 3.5 years. I'm not here to make any excuses for Obama. He's a big boy, he signed up for this job, and he needs to put in more work to make this shit right. Period. Voters reward results, not good intentions.

That said, let's see where the economy is come November before we start pronouncing failure.

[NC_Skins]

Money Men: The Powerful and the Secret Names Behind Campaign Dough | Power Players - Yahoo! News

Your country is bought and paid for.



12th man. I don't need to wait till November. As long as money is guiding our politics, it'll continue to be a failure. It's time we get corporate america out of our goverment as well as the religious nuts.

[NC_Skins]

What Obama isn’t telling us | Power Players - Yahoo! News

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[NC_Skins]

The bad news....

President Obama: The Biggest Government Spender In World History - Forbes



..the good news. Overall debt is going down.

U.S. debt load falling at fastest pace since 1950s - Yahoo! Finance

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The bad news....

President Obama: The Biggest Government Spender In World History - Forbes



..the good news. Overall debt is going down.

U.S. debt load falling at fastest pace since 1950s - Yahoo! Finance

That's counting private debt. Meanwhile the federal debt continues to go up. link

[NC_Skins]

Mitt Romney really liked the sandwich computer at Wawa | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

But more than anything, Romney seemed blown away by the Wawa computers, which he raved about.

"You press a little touchtone key pad… You touch this, touch this, touch this, go pay the cashier, and there's your sandwich," Romney said. "It's amazing!"

The article is seemingly harmless, but it shows something that's been a trend since he's started. The guy is so out of touch with reality and common people it's not even funny. They might as well have some big banking CEO running for president.











...and on the flip side.

New Obama policy will spare some from deportation - Yahoo! News

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Mitt Romney really liked the sandwich computer at Wawa | The Ticket - Yahoo! News




The article is seemingly harmless, but it shows something that's been a trend since he's started. The guy is so out of touch with reality and common people it's not even funny. They might as well have some big banking CEO running for president.











...and on the flip side.

New Obama policy will spare some from deportation - Yahoo! News

You left out what he was really saying about those computers.

It was a technology, he said, that had been fostered by competition—competition he said the federal government lacks in delivering its services to Americans. He said the government's lack of competition and bureaucracy was hurting the United States in keeping jobs that are moving to other countries.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You left out what he was really saying about those computers.

It was a technology, he said, that had been fostered by competition—competition he said the federal government lacks in delivering its services to Americans. He said the government's lack of competition and bureaucracy was hurting the United States in keeping jobs that are moving to other countries.

Guess what? It's because of guys like HIM that jobs are shipped overseas. DUHHHHH!!

I didnt' miss anything. I was to note how out of touch with reality and common people he is. He's that excited to see this technology that's been out for god knows how long? Shows you he doesn't mingle or have a clue about common people. His personal chef cooks for him, elevators for his cars, etc.....

Not remotely in touch with middle class America.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Guess what? It's because of guys like HIM that jobs are shipped overseas. DUHHHHH!!

I didnt' miss anything. I was to note how out of touch with reality and common people he is. He's that excited to see this technology that's been out for god knows how long? Shows you he doesn't mingle or have a clue about common people. His personal chef cooks for him, elevators for his cars, etc.....

Not remotely in touch with middle class America.

no long term politician is. Seriously, lets put their pay back to 50-75K a year, and then see how many stay in office.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Guess what? It's because of guys like HIM that jobs are shipped overseas. DUHHHHH!!

I didnt' miss anything. I was to note how out of touch with reality and common people he is. He's that excited to see this technology that's been out for god knows how long? Shows you he doesn't mingle or have a clue about common people. His personal chef cooks for him, elevators for his cars, etc.....

Not remotely in touch with middle class America.

The author said he was excited over the computer not him. What was he suppose to say when they showed him how it worked? I guess he could have yawned and said that's old school. All politicains are out of touch with the American people so that not news.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

If that was the case then the elevator was installed prior the new laws requiring them to be wheel chair accessible. When new regulations are passed existings buildings get grandfathered unlass they do a major renovation. Seems like someone wanted a very expensive bill passed and he vetoed the unfair legislation.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If that was the case then the elevator was installed prior the new laws requiring them to be wheel chair accessible. When new regulations are passed existings buildings get grandfathered unlass they do a major renovation. Seems like someone wanted a very expensive bill passed and he vetoed the unfair legislation.

Coming from a guy who had a elevator closed off to anybody but his own personal use is quite funny.

Romney remembered as CEO governor - CNN.com

"He had three security people around him, and you could never get to touch him or say hello," said state Rep. Frank Smizik, chairman of the House Committee on Global Warming and Climate Change. "He was very elitist."

On this reporter's unannounced visit to the Legislature, there was no shortage of Democratic lawmakers who complained about Romney's unprecedented move to block off one State House elevator specifically for the governor's office.

"He took over the elevator for the west wing of the building. He kept it only for his staff and him," Smizik said.

Listening in on Smizik's comments, another Democrat, state Rep. Ellen Story, said the elevator restrictions and security ropes installed outside Romney's office turned off some lawmakers for good.

"When Romney came in, he treated government like the only thing he ever knew, which was big business, and he was the CEO of the big business," Story said.

Why are you defending this douche bag? ...lol

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Coming from a guy who had a elevator closed off to anybody but his own personal use is quite funny.

Romney remembered as CEO governor - CNN.com





Why are you defending this douche bag? ...lol

So you went serching for the real story about Romney's elevator story and found nothing but another elevator story told by a bunch of dems. LMAO

This was from your article and it looks good to me:

"He was all business. It was all about policy. He didn't trade jobs for votes. He didn't trade capital projects for votes. So that came back to bite him a little bit," Hedlund said.

Wow, a politician who does not trade away favors/money for votes. That's a new concept.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Look, I've pretty much resigned myself the reality that Congress is what it is. The voters will and should hold the president accountable on November 6 regardless of the clear obstructionism we've witnessed over the past 3.5 years. I'm not here to make any excuses for Obama. He's a big boy, he signed up for this job, and he needs to put in more work to make this shit right. Period. Voters reward results, not good intentions.

That said, let's see where the economy is come November before we start pronouncing failure.

Its been dems who have not voted along with Obama which has been his problem. His first two year the Dems had total control and he could not get them to vote on his bills but you guys blamed the GOP. You act like he is the first Pres. to have this problem and he is not. Bill Clinton had to work with the GOP and he managed to get bills passed by working with them unlike Obama. Also if I'm correct didn't all his financial advisors who work on the stimulas resign?