Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mahons21

Why do you think that? Cousins is a more polished passer in my opinion, I remember Kaeprnick being rather raw, but having the physical measurables.

I meant more in terms of 2nd round pick who's kind of forgotten among the other rookie QBs and doesn't start (or hardly even play) for at least a year. Yet the head coach "loves him"

Wasn't talking as much about skill set

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I meant more in terms of 2nd round pick who's kind of forgotten among the other rookie QBs and doesn't start (or hardly even play) for at least a year. Yet the head coach "loves him"

Wasn't talking as much about skill set

Any specific reason why he loves him?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Any specific reason why he loves him?

Well actually I was talking about Harbaugh loving Kaepernick

[30gut]

I know its pointless but whenever a QB from last year's class is mentioned I can't help but think how much different this team's outlook would be if we had somehow drafted (traded up for them).

Looking back its amazing the perception of last years QB class vs this years class and how off base that perception turned out to be.
Imo Colin Kaepernick skillset is easily on the same tier as Luck and Tannehill yet he went in the second round.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Imo Colin Kaepernick skillset is easily on the same tier as Luck and Tannehill yet he went in the second round.

*sighs*

I know Kaepernick is tall and athletic and throws a good bucket pass, but I'm going to say that lumping him in with Luck is worse than lumping Tannehill with Luck.

I do see Kaepernick and Tannehill though. Very different offensive schemes, but more similar than different in skills.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

*sighs*

I know Kaepernick is tall and athletic and throws a good bucket pass, but I'm going to say that lumping him in with Luck is worse than lumping Tannehill with Luck.

I do see Kaepernick and Tannehill though. Very different offensive schemes, but more similar than different in skills.

I agree Kaepernick and Tannehill are similar, but Kaepernick has no reason to even be honored in the same discussion as Luck or RG3. Watch Kaepernick at Nevada, played against awful defenses, had an odd throwing motion/release. Luck and Griffin played against talented teams and produced week in and week out.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

*sighs*

I know Kaepernick is tall and athletic and throws a good bucket pass, but I'm going to say that lumping him in with Luck is worse than lumping Tannehill with Luck.

I do see Kaepernick and Tannehill though. Very different offensive schemes, but more similar than different in skills.

*sighs* Skill set is not the sum of a prospect.
2 QBs can have the same physical skill set yet grade out completely differently.
For some reason you struggle with the notion of physical skill set being part of a QBs profile yet not the sum of that propsect.
Kaepernik has a much bigger arm then Griffin, Luck and Tannehill and he's at least the athletic equal to Tannehill and superior to Luck.
He's on the same tier as Griffin although not his equal.

But, I guess I should expect this from you since for whatever reason you cannot admit that Tannehill is a better athlete then Luck.
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post889702

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 30gut

*sighs* Skill set is not the sum of a prospect.
2 QBs can have the same physical skill set yet grade out completely differently.
For some reason you struggle with the notion of physical skill set being part of a QBs profile yet not the sum of that propsect.
Kaepernik has a much bigger arm then Griffin, Luck and Tannehill and he's at least the athletic equal to Tannehill and superior to Luck.
He's on the same tier as Griffin although not his equal.

But, I guess I should expect this from you since for whatever reason you cannot admit that Tannehill is a better athlete then Luck.
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post889702

Pushing falsehoods is not the same as grading quarterbacks. Of course Andrew Luck is a better athlete than Tannehill.

It's an irrelevant argument since you're the only guy here who starts the quarterback discussion with athleticism, and then gets involved in this quarterback virtual reality where Andrew Luck is this unremarkable first round quarterback who anyone with a good build and a good arm gets compared to.

I thought comparing Tannehill and Kaepernick was a useful way to make your point about Kaepernick being undervalued last year, but your desire to make Luck seem like "one of the guys" undermined the argument you were actually trying to make.

I disagree that NFL Network is pushing a conspiracy to compare Luck and Newton as athletes. But Luck is in that kind of class as an athlete. Whether or not he'll be a better QB than Newton is up for debate and won't be answered for many years. But we already know that this is the kind of athlete we're talking about here.