Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hadn't planned on it. I mean I've kind of mentioned most of the names I've heard so far. But I suppose I could

I thought you did one last season or did you just comb through JLC's list and make comments (in conjunction with the names you dropped throughout the lockout period)?

If you don't then perhaps I can ask Chico to dream one up this evening lol.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

I thought you did one last season or did you just comb through JLC's list and make comments (in conjunction with the names you dropped throughout the lockout period)?

If you don't then perhaps I can ask Chico to dream one up this evening lol.

I don't think so.

I think Dirtbag might have done a "What Potential Draft Picks Have We Met With" that I assisted on.

[CrazyCanuck]

Mike Wise is pissing in our koolaid...

Robert Griffin III has Redskins, fans heading for a relapse - The Washington Post

I agree that maybe we are overhyping RG3 too much but come on. This line bugged me:

"Why not build up the offensive line, the receiving corps or find a shutdown corner and then go all-in for Barkley next year? He was thought to be a higher pick than RG III, after all, before he decided to return to Southern Cal."

You can make this argument every year! When do we finally get a QB????

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Mike Wise is pissing in our koolaid...

Robert Griffin III has Redskins, fans heading for a relapse - The Washington Post

I agree that maybe we are overhyping RG3 too much but come on. This line bugged me:

"Why not build up the offensive line, the receiving corps or find a shutdown corner and then go all-in for Barkley next year? He was thought to be a higher pick than RG III, after all, before he decided to return to Southern Cal."

You can make this argument every year! When do we finally get a QB????

I never heard Barkley ever being rated higher then RG3.

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Mike Wise is pissing in our koolaid...

Robert Griffin III has Redskins, fans heading for a relapse - The Washington Post

I agree that maybe we are overhyping RG3 too much but come on. This line bugged me:

"Why not build up the offensive line, the receiving corps or find a shutdown corner and then go all-in for Barkley next year? He was thought to be a higher pick than RG III, after all, before he decided to return to Southern Cal."

You can make this argument every year! When do we finally get a QB????

The big problem I see, is we would be out of position to grab Barkley. The guy is mostly likely gonna go #1 and if we're in the mid teens for our pick, imagine the ammo we would need to move up. I think at 6 this year we're in a perfect position to grab an elite QB at near the top.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

The big problem I see, is we would be out of position to grab Barkley. The guy is mostly likely gonna go #1 and if we're in the mid teens for our pick, imagine the ammo we would need to move up. I think at 6 this year we're in a perfect position to grab an elite QB at near the top.

After hearing about the concerns scouts have with Barkley I think it's pretty safe to say that he would have been the 3rd QB in this draft.

Don't get me wrong, Barkley is a quality prospect and certainly much more promising then the Tannehill's of the world. However he doesn't have the greatest arm and is athletically average if that. RG3 has both the arm and athleticism not to mention he can match Barkley on the intangibles front.

Another thing to remember is Barkley's supporting cast is miles better then what RG3 had at Baylor. I think had the two gone head to head in this draft class Griffin would have gone first.

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

After hearing about the concerns scouts have with Barkley I think it's pretty safe to say that he would have been the 3rd QB in this draft.

Don't get me wrong, Barkley is a quality prospect and certainly much more promising then the Tannehill's of the world. However he doesn't have the greatest arm and is athletically average if that. RG3 has both the arm and athleticism not to mention he can match Barkley on the intangibles front.

Another thing to remember is Barkley's supporting cast is miles better then what RG3 had at Baylor. I think had the two gone head to head in this draft class Griffin would have gone first.

Hey Dirt totally agree, this was more of why not to wait till 2013 for Bark or any other QB for that matter. USC Qbs scare the hell of me. Im def behind all in for Grif.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

The big problem I see, is we would be out of position to grab Barkley. The guy is mostly likely gonna go #1 and if we're in the mid teens for our pick, imagine the ammo we would need to move up. I think at 6 this year we're in a perfect position to grab an elite QB at near the top.

Good point, and you're probably right but after another 8 or 9 picks and a full roud of free agency this year, the Skins would have far fewer holes and could throw everything that had into getting Barkley if they really wanted him. Or they could tank the season

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Mike Wise is pissing in our koolaid...

Robert Griffin III has Redskins, fans heading for a relapse - The Washington Post

I agree that maybe we are overhyping RG3 too much but come on. This line bugged me:

"Why not build up the offensive line, the receiving corps or find a shutdown corner and then go all-in for Barkley next year? He was thought to be a higher pick than RG III, after all, before he decided to return to Southern Cal."

You can make this argument every year! When do we finally get a QB????

I disagree with Wise for several reasons, most notably because his logic is self-defeating. If we build as he suggests then we perhaps draft in the teens next year. Then it will be much farther to trade up for Jones and Barkley than it is to trade up for Griffin now.

It's like waiting to buy a house because it is expensive now even though you know that the house's price will rise dramatically while you wait.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I disagree with Wise for several reasons, most notably because his logic is self-defeating. If we build as he suggests then we perhaps draft in the teens next year. Then it will be much farther to trade up for Jones and Barkley than it is to trade up for Griffin now.

It's like waiting to buy a house because it is expensive now even though you know that the house's price will rise dramatically while you wait.

While I think that we should keep trying to get in position for RG3 so long as we have the 6th pick, I will point out that Ryan Tannehill types are around in the middle of the first round every season.

There probably won't be the vast selection of first round quarterback options there is this year for quite awhile, but I don't necessarily think that picking in the middle of the round is an impediment to getting a good quarterback.

There probably won't be a Robert Griffin in the draft to be a foil to Matt Barkley though.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

While I think that we should keep trying to get in position for RG3 so long as we have the 6th pick, I will point out that Ryan Tannehill types are around in the middle of the first round every season.

There probably won't be the vast selection of first round quarterback options there is this year for quite awhile, but I don't necessarily think that picking in the middle of the round is an impediment to getting a good quarterback.

There probably won't be a Robert Griffin in the draft to be a foil to Matt Barkley though.

I essentially agree. But the author of the article mentioned Barkley and Jones specifically so I was just taking his presumptions to their logical ends.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I essentially agree. But the author of the article mentioned Barkley and Jones specifically so I was just taking his presumptions to their logical ends.

The Wise article is mostly garbage aimed at the lowest common denominator. But he does make one really solid point: if the Shanaplan now calls to do what it takes to trade up and make Griffin the face of the franchise, what in the hell was he doing for two seasons?

The argument that Shanahan has taken a measured principled approach to rebuilding the Redskins has never looked more ridiculous than it does right now. The guy is just trying to do what he can to win games, and he may very well believe that Robert Griffin gives him the best chance to do that.

I'll be interested who the first poster to link the McNabb benching to his opinion on RG3 as a prospect is, since everything has been premeditated.

[whistler]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I disagree with Wise for several reasons, most notably because his logic is self-defeating. If we build as he suggests then we perhaps draft in the teens next year. Then it will be much farther to trade up for Jones and Barkley than it is to trade up for Griffin now.

It's like waiting to buy a house because it is expensive now even though you know that the house's price will rise dramatically while you wait.

Stay away from Barkley, name a USC qb that has made a difference with any team... and please don't say Palmer (when did he win a playoff game?). USC always has talent all over the field and the qb is just a placholder and game-manager.

Tannehill is not a franchise qb. If his head coach doesn't make a play for him in Miami (OC) that should tell you everything. Small hands make a big difference(i.e. Rex Grossman).