Yet Another QB Rumors Thread (Volume 9)

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I swear, people say we have no talent on this team like we are out there with pop warner players every single week.

[Swarley]

Does the price really drop with each FA QB Signing though? Let's just say that at the moment the Browns are ready to try and get their next QB in FA with the draft as a back up. What if they don't get a QB they like in FA? One would think they would go all in on drafting a game changing QB.

Not saying this is true, but I don't think it's all that far fetched.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Curt Warner was a RB for Penn State in the early 80's. Brees didn't come anywhere near borderline sucking as you say.

Maybe not but the Chargers apparently didn't see the need to keep him either. Remember he had a shoulder injury and they thought he was done. If I'm not mistaken.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and if RGIII is better and has no one to throw to or only a mediocre OL then all his talent in the world will be worth zippy. We'd be better off saving our picks and trying to pick up several players from FA and the draft vs. extending ouselves and getting a Corvette but no gas to drive it with.

He'll have one of the top free agent WR's and possibly someone like Ben Grubbs up front. $47 million of cap space is a lot of money, if they find a bunch of Barry Cofield type players then they'll do fine.

By the way keep in mind that RGIII was winning games at Baylor. They weren't exactly bringing in 4 and 5 star recruits and their defense was non-existent all the while facing teams from Texas and Oklahoma that were loaded with 4 and 5 star recruits.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and if RGIII is better and has no one to throw to or only a mediocre OL then all his talent in the world will be worth zippy. We'd be better off saving our picks and trying to pick up several players from FA and the draft vs. extending ouselves and getting a Corvette but no gas to drive it with.

There are WR's to be had in FA and just as teams have had success with lesser QB's teams have also had success with lesser receivers.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

How would each FA QB signing not impact the price of the number 2 pick? If Flynn goes to Cleveland, and Peyton goes to Miami, how could the Rams still demand what they are demanding?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I swear, people say we have no talent on this team like we are out there with pop warner players every single week.

Trent Williams- One of the best LT's in the NFL.
Brian Orakpo- Big Time OLB/Athlete
Kerrigan- See Orakpo
Fred Davis- Very good Pass catching TE
London Fletcher- Age is just a number to him
S.Moss- Yes he's old but still a dang good number 2
D.Hall- Hey say what u want but he's a ballhawk
LL- When healthy? One of the best Safeties in the league
D-Line- Very solid

So I do see some talent BUT The offensive side needs some serious help, I'm down With Helu/Royster combo but our WRs are not very good overall.. Now if HANK becomes what we hope? We will be just fine

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Maybe not but the Chargers apparently didn't see the need to keep him either. Remember he had a shoulder injury and they thought he was done. If I'm not mistaken.

They also put the franchise tag on him a year before when he was healthy.

That's the thought experiment I like: what if instead of using a pair of first round picks on Campbell and Rogers, what if Gibbs had signed Brees instead in 2005, and had to give up two first round picks to the Chargers? I doubt Brees would have become elite here and gone to the pro bowl every year, but I think he'd be widely regarded as the best QB the Redskins have had since Rypien.

[skinsfaninok]

Drew Brees has always been good but he is GREAT in N.O

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

How would each FA QB signing not impact the price of the number 2 pick? If Flynn goes to Cleveland, and Peyton goes to Miami, how could the Rams still demand what they are demanding?

Of course it could but to my point. If the Browns end up with no one they may feel the pressure and offer more for the number 2 pick. If by all accounts you have lukewarm interest from the Browns to trade up and you have the Rams who want to make a deal before the start of FA you may be able to avoid selling the entire farm.

just another way to look at it.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I swear, people say we have no talent on this team like we are out there with pop warner players every single week.

I am annoyed by that too.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I am annoyed by that too.

I love it. What fun would this forum be if we all just agreed that the team needed to give up whatever possible for RG3?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

There are WR's to be had in FA and just as teams have had success with lesser QB's teams have also had success with lesser receivers.

Better lesser receivers than a lesser QB.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

How would each FA QB signing not impact the price of the number 2 pick? If Flynn goes to Cleveland, and Peyton goes to Miami, how could the Rams still demand what they are demanding?

The big thing with the Rams is that they need the Redskins to be involved to get value on the second pick.

I see people talking as if Shanahan is going to try to leverage his relationship with Jeff Fisher to make a deal. But it's a two way street. As long as the Rams and Redskins have reports of a handshake deal for the second pick, teams know that the Browns and Vikings picks just aren't as valuable.

If the Redskins were to walk away from the table entirely, Griffin wouldn't be a lock to go second overall, and the Dolphins could start negotiating with the Vikings and Browns for a better price. But as long as the Redskins are involved and the Rams know that they can get at least the Redskins 2013 pick for the second pick, now the Vikings and Browns aren't sellers for RG3.

So this business relationship isn't just going to benefit the Rams. But the person who is unquestionably a winner of this 'handshake deal' is RG3.

[skinsfaninok]

Since 1967 only one QB taking number 2 overall as a winning record.. That would be Mr. Donovan Mcnabb