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Old 02-27-2012, 11:24 PM   #1
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Yes. Take a moment to look at Griffin.

- Olympic level athlete
- Elite Arm Strength
- Downfield accuracy
- High IQ (likely over 140)
- High character
- Led Baylor....BAYLOR to a 9-3 season including wins over Oklahoma and Texas.
- 4 year starter...err 3.15 year starter.

Tannehill and Weeden, who ironically beat Baylor, have some of those characteristics but not all of them. Virtually anything they can do RGIII can do and he'll likely do it better.
Um- Weeden has all that except the running/ evasiveness.
Strong arm
Able to make all the throws
Accuracy
Great with the fade and out route
Smart
Mature
Already gets along with the coaching staff
Has great throwing motion unlike RGIII with his 3/4 motion.
Can read defenses
Shows patience and mobility in the pocket
Works through his progressions
Does not lock on to any one WR
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Old 02-27-2012, 11:56 PM   #2
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Um- Weeden has all that except the running/ evasiveness.
Strong arm
Able to make all the throws
Accuracy
Great with the fade and out route
Smart
Mature
Already gets along with the coaching staff
Has great throwing motion unlike RGIII with his 3/4 motion.
Can read defenses
Shows patience and mobility in the pocket
Works through his progressions
Does not lock on to any one WR
I never said Weeden doesn't have those traits. I'm saying that not only does Griffin have them, but in his case they're even more potent.

And don't discount the mobility. The best part about Griffin is that top tier-elite mobility and the threat of him off the bootleg thereby opening up the cutback lanes for our backs. That threat is invaluable in this offense to the point where we could easily be the number 1 running team next year.

And I know other QB's are mobile but the type of mobility that Griffin brings to the table actually results in running lanes being opened for our backs.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:08 AM   #3
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I never said Weeden doesn't have those traits. I'm saying that not only does Griffin have them, but in his case they're even more potent.

And don't discount the mobility. The best part about Griffin is that top tier-elite mobility and the threat of him off the bootleg thereby opening up the cutback lanes for our backs. That threat is invaluable in this offense to the point where we could easily be the number 1 running team next year.

And I know other QB's are mobile but the type of mobility that Griffin brings to the table actually results in running lanes being opened for our backs.

I'm just asking cause I don't know..... but when was the last time an extremely mobile QB took his team to the SB and won it. I'll give you Rogers since people want to compare him to RGIII but to me RGIII is more mobile like Vick, and remember Randle Cunningham etc. help me out.
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I'm just asking cause I don't know..... but when was the last time an extremely mobile QB took his team to the SB and won it. I'll give you Rogers since people want to compare him to RGIII but to me RGIII is more mobile like Vick, and remember Randle Cunningham etc. help me out.
Just because he's extremely mobile it doesnt mean he's not gonna be able to deliver the ball from the pocket. He's already a better passer than Vick was at any time in Atlanta.
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Just because he's extremely mobile it doesnt mean he's not gonna be able to deliver the ball from the pocket. He's already a better passer than Vick was at any time in Atlanta.
and if RGIII is better and has no one to throw to or only a mediocre OL then all his talent in the world will be worth zippy. We'd be better off saving our picks and trying to pick up several players from FA and the draft vs. extending ouselves and getting a Corvette but no gas to drive it with.
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and if RGIII is better and has no one to throw to or only a mediocre OL then all his talent in the world will be worth zippy. We'd be better off saving our picks and trying to pick up several players from FA and the draft vs. extending ouselves and getting a Corvette but no gas to drive it with.
He'll have one of the top free agent WR's and possibly someone like Ben Grubbs up front. $47 million of cap space is a lot of money, if they find a bunch of Barry Cofield type players then they'll do fine.

By the way keep in mind that RGIII was winning games at Baylor. They weren't exactly bringing in 4 and 5 star recruits and their defense was non-existent all the while facing teams from Texas and Oklahoma that were loaded with 4 and 5 star recruits.
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and if RGIII is better and has no one to throw to or only a mediocre OL then all his talent in the world will be worth zippy. We'd be better off saving our picks and trying to pick up several players from FA and the draft vs. extending ouselves and getting a Corvette but no gas to drive it with.
There are WR's to be had in FA and just as teams have had success with lesser QB's teams have also had success with lesser receivers.
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There are WR's to be had in FA and just as teams have had success with lesser QB's teams have also had success with lesser receivers.
Better lesser receivers than a lesser QB.
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I'm just asking cause I don't know..... but when was the last time an extremely mobile QB took his team to the SB and won it. I'll give you Rogers since people want to compare him to RGIII but to me RGIII is more mobile like Vick, and remember Randle Cunningham etc. help me out.
If it has happened it's been a while. Still I've been pretty up front about this.

We all know Vick was a dumb ass. There was a point during his time in Atlanta where he just decided to stop studying the playbook and party instead. He was never that accurate a passer in college and it took him something like 10 years before he got a completion percentage over 57%.

And in spite of all of that he got the Falcons to win games and even got them as far as the NFC Championship. This while being the leagues worst passing QB among starters.

I've said time and time again, the worst we can do, provided RG3 doesn't have a tragic accident is actually start to win games again and get to the playoffs on a semi-regular basis. Thats assuming he doesn't develop as a passer which given his game tape is hard to believe. There is little chance that Griffin becomes even close to as bad of a passer as the Atlanta version of Michael Vick.

Also keep in mind the league is changing. It's only a matter of time before an athletic freak at QB wins the Super Bowl. I certainly wouldn't bet against it happening.
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