I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

[mooby]

Originally Posted by iamsrk

That would be me.

That would be you indeed. I wish I could trust your sources better, but one random post does not a reliable source make.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Not at all, didn't intend to shoot the messenger.
Just speculating on the plausibility/logic behind some of the info out there.

Holmgren is quoted to have said that he wants to bring in competition.
It just doesn't seem logical to me to draft high or give up high draft picks for competition, that would be for replacement.

I look at it this way, there are fans here who seem to think we need to do whatever it takes to get RGIII to even include throwing all our draft picks away this yr and possibly next simply cause they think he will be the "franchise" QB of the future. What I find interesting is apparently no one else is supposed to think that way either only the Skins.

I'm telling you other teams although might not need a QB will probably try to get him if they think he's better then what they got now. I said this back in Nov. when Mock drafts were coming out saying this is how the draft will go:
1-Colts (need a QB) Luck
2- Rams (need a LT) Kalil
3- Vikes (need a WR) Blackmon
4- Bucks (need a CB) Claiborne
5- Skins (need a QB) RGIII

I said any of those teams would probably take a second look at RGIII if he is supposed to be the "franchise" QB everyone thinks he is. Then there is Dolphins, Titans, Seattle, Cardinals, etc. etc. etc.

We would be better served to try to pick up a FA QB and pick up a WR/QB tandum in the first two rounds. I don't want Orton but if it's expected for him to simply be back up to whoever is drafted then I'm ok with it. I just don't want him starting otherwise we might as well keep Grossman, I think his knowledge of the scheme out weights the few less INT's Orton provides.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well I know they're referencing us because I found the link to that forum in the link backs section at the bottom of this thread. But yeah that's horrible. One random guy comes in here and says he thinks McCoy and Shipley are coming here and then it's a legit rumor? Only in the offseason.

Very similar to this.....

Plaxico Burress Predicts Drew Brees to the Redskins - Hogs Haven

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by celts32

If the Browns get Bradford I am going to be bitter as hell...

One mans loss is another mans gain. I'll be estatic. Let some other team make the idiotic draft pick trade for Bradford.

[CrazyCanuck]

I think I'm ready for "QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign"

I get excited when there is a new chapter.

[redskin29633]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Rex was often a playmaker for the opposition, as well. He has a major problem with turnovers and, after 9 years in the league, it doesn't look like he can correct that problem.

Regardless, I think it is now clear to most observers that an NFL team needs to have a QB who is well above average in order to be a contender. That's not Rex.

Nevertheless, I would support signing him as a backup. I think he's more than adequate in that role.

I believe that if Rex does come back, it will be as a backup--eventually. Depending upon the draft choice at QB, I do think that it's also possible for Rex to be the starter for the first six-eight games in 2012. Regardless, I hope we re-sign Rex because he is probably the best option as backup QB.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

One mans loss is another mans gain. I'll be estatic. Let some other team make the idiotic draft pick trade for Bradford.

That's okay...you will come around after we win the NFC East.

[NC_Skins]

I hear ya got a QB spot open.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I hear ya got a QB spot open.

Peyton: I tell you what, if you make your son "disappear" and let me run the offense I want to play, I'll come to Washington and save your hide.

Shanny: Sold!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Peyton in his best Elvis impression:

Hey babeh.

Mike S: yeah?

Peyton: yeah.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Peyton: I tell you what, if you make your son "disappear" and let me run the offense I want to play, I'll come to Washington and save your hide.

Shanny: Sold!

LOL that's excellent!

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I look at it this way, there are fans here who seem to think we need to do whatever it takes to get RGIII to even include throwing all our draft picks away this yr and possibly next simply cause they think he will be the "franchise" QB of the future. What I find interesting is apparently no one else is supposed to think that way either only the Skins.

Although I think Griffin is the best QB prospect in this draft class I don't think the FO should 'get him at all costs'.
Call me crazy but I think the chances of Griff being available at 6 are reasonable.
Therefore I think the need/cost to move up isn't as great as people think.
Lets say we move up to the 4th or 3rd pick? The compensation would not be as the multiple 1st people have been speculating about for Griffin.
Imo we only really need to be ahead of 1 team and that's the Browns,(and doubt if the Browns really want to draft Griffin as much as they want someone to trade with them for Griffin).

I recall last year when everyone swore the Bills, Bengals, Cards and 49ers would take a QB in the1st and none did.
That's why I think there's a good chance Griff falls to us at 6.

I said any of those teams would probably take a second look at RGIII if he is supposed to be the "franchise" QB everyone thinks he is. Then there is Dolphins, Titans, Seattle, Cardinals, etc. etc. etc.

Disagree about those teams taking a second look at Griff.
Imo a team that has a potential franchise QB doesn't draft another QB just because of preference.
If those teams drafted another QB (Griffin) it means their entire organization is making a paradigm shift.

The only real threats from that list are the Dolphins and the Seahawks.
And there is a good chance that the Dolphins address their QB issue through FA.
Seattle would have to sacrifice a lot to leap frog past the 6th pick.

I don't want Orton but if it's expected for him to simply be back up to whoever is drafted then I'm ok with it. I just don't want him starting otherwise we might as well keep Grossman, I think his knowledge of the scheme out weights the few less INT's Orton provides.

Orton is a worse case scenario as a starter but even still he would be better then Rex.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Although I think Griffin is the best QB prospect in this draft class I don't think the FO should 'get him at all costs'.
Call me crazy but I think the chances of Griff being available at 6 are reasonable.
Therefore I think the need/cost to move up isn't as great as people think.
Lets say we move up to the 4th or 3rd pick? The compensation would not be as the multiple 1st people have been speculating about for Griffin.
Imo we only really need to be ahead of 1 team and that's the Browns,(and doubt if the Browns really want to draft Griffin as much as they want someone to trade with them for Griffin).

I recall last year when everyone swore the Bills, Bengals, Cards and 49ers would take a QB in the1st and none did.
That's why I think there's a good chance Griff falls to us at 6.


Disagree about those teams taking a second look at Griff.
Imo a team that has a potential franchise QB doesn't draft another QB just because of preference.
If those teams drafted another QB (Griffin) it means their entire organization is making a paradigm shift.

The only real threats from that list are the Dolphins and the Seahawks.
And there is a good chance that the Dolphins address their QB issue through FA.
Seattle would have to sacrifice a lot to leap frog past the 6th pick.

Orton is a worse case scenario as a starter but even still he would be better then Rex.

So, you truly believe that Bradford is a franchise QB? Ponder is a franchise QB? you believe Freeman is a franchise QB? McCoy is a franchise QB? Those QB's are as good or better then RGIII? cause if you can't say that then figure on those teams possibly taking RGIII and getting rid of what they got.... "IF" RGIII is truly a franchise QB.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I hear ya got a QB spot open.

My Daddy said I can come play for ya'll. I wanted to go to San Diego but Daddy said that they're nothing but a bunch of tree huggin liberals.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I would be totally stunned if Bradford is playing for any team other than St Louis or Washington

That's what I like to hear SS.