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Old 12-05-2011, 12:45 PM   #1
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Re: Switching positions.

So are you suggesting that one or more of our tackles and/or corners switch to safety or guard? If so, who and why?
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:01 PM   #2
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So are you suggesting that one or more of our tackles and/or corners switch to safety or guard? If so, who and why?
Not our current players. I just realized I didn't clarify what I was saying. I was referring to the draft. I was looking towards the future of the Redskins, and obviously OJ Atogwe isn't going to be around forever. I'm not positive how good our guards are either. We don't really have the abundance of talent so that we can draft starters for the future at all our needs right now. I think it might be a good idea to use a 3rd rounder on an athletic corner and groom him for a couple of years to be a safety. Kind of moneyball it (with no money involved) Same thing applies to drafting tackles and switching them to guards. Or even sign free agents that didn't work out at their respective positions and switch them (that would be moneyballing it, but I like the idea of growing through the draft).
Hell the packers took a WR in sam shields and made him into a decent corner.

I just want to say that I don't believe position switches should be limited to just what I said. A couple more ideas that I personally really like is defensive tackles switching to guard (I know that's a huge change). The reason I like that is because the most athletic big guys have a tendency to play defense. Take a raw talent on the d-line, and take 2-3 years to try and switch him to guard. I just think that long term, the value/potential is higher.

Another position switch I rarely see happen is safety to LB. There seems to be so many safeties out there that can't cover but can tackle real well. I don't understand why they don't get moved to LB. Adam Archuletta comes to mind when I say this. Especially when we had him, our LBs were very poor. His coverage skills couldnt have been worse than our dogshit linebackers, and his tackling skills were always great. I wanted to see him in at LB.

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Old 12-05-2011, 01:08 PM   #3
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Not our current players. I just realized I didn't clarify what I was saying. I was referring to the draft. I was looking towards the future of the Redskins, and obviously OJ Atogwe isn't going to be around forever. I'm not positive how good our guards are either. We don't really have the abundance of talent so that we can draft starters for the future at all our needs right now. I think it might be a good idea to use a 3rd rounder on an athletic corner and groom him for a couple of years to be a safety. Kind of moneyball it (with no money involved) Same thing applies to drafting tackles and switching them to guards. Or even sign free agents that didn't work out at their respective positions and switch them (that would be moneyballing it, but I like the idea of growing through the draft).
Hell the packers took a WR in sam shields and made him into a decent corner.
Well they kinda do, do that. Most teams will look for a OL that plays more then one position ie; Montgomery was a Center who was playing Guard for the first few yrs with us. I'm sure others could name a couple other guys in the same position.

Barnes has been used at CB, Nickle, and if I'm not mistaken FS or so I thought for one or more games. Gomez I thought was a CB which the team has been using at FS recently.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:28 PM   #4
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Well they kinda do, do that. Most teams will look for a OL that plays more then one position ie; Montgomery was a Center who was playing Guard for the first few yrs with us. I'm sure others could name a couple other guys in the same position.

Barnes has been used at CB, Nickle, and if I'm not mistaken FS or so I thought for one or more games. Gomez I thought was a CB which the team has been using at FS recently.
Barnes played some FS last year and didn't do a bad job.
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Patriots start three new defenders, including a wide receiver | ProFootballTalk

I swear this kind of ish only works in NE. WRs playing safety?
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I swear this kind of ish only works in NE. WRs playing safety?
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So are you suggesting that one or more of our tackles and/or corners switch to safety or guard? If so, who and why?
I'll take a quick swag at this.

If Hall were to stay on this team, I wouldn't necessarily mind if it were as a FS. I think he has the speed and ball skills to make some plays, although he's looked pretty bad this year. I don't have any faith in his tackling ability or his ability to stop the run, so that's a big concern. Basically, he has enough holes in his game to where I think he'd be a liability wherever he is, but maybe he'd make a few more plays as a FS, just a guess. Not a move I'd be excited about, but I think he'd be the best candidate. Anyway, we have Gomes as a young FS, I'd like to see him instead of moving Hall.

As to moving tackles to guard, I said last year I would have moved Heyer because I didn't think he was quick enough to play tackle. That said, I don't think there's a candidate for that on the team as it's currently constructed, but I would have let Selvish Capers take a shot at G before we let him go.

In my opinion, I'm somewhat happy with what I'm seeing from Hurt if he continues to progress, but I wouldn't mind a bit more depth along the interior line.

I don't think this is the best idea in the world, but to me, it should be considered before cutting young O Lineman...not saying Heyer or Capers would have been great guards, but I think they may have been a fit there as opposed to the more demanding tackle position.

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I'll take a quick swag at this.

If Hall were to stay on this team, I wouldn't necessarily mind if it were as a FS. I think he has the speed and ball skills to make some plays, although he's looked pretty bad this year. I don't have any faith in his tackling ability or his ability to stop the run, so that's a big concern. Basically, he has enough holes in his game to where I think he'd be a liability wherever he is, but maybe he'd make a few more plays as a FS, just a guess. Not a move I'd be excited about, but I think he'd be the best candidate. Anyway, we have Gomes as a young FS, I'd like to see him instead of moving Hall.

As to moving tackles to guard, I said last year I would have moved Heyer because I didn't think he was quick enough to play tackle. That said, I don't think there's a candidate for that on the team as it's currently constructed, but I would have let Selvish Capers take a shot at G before we let him go.

In my opinion, I'm somewhat happy with what I'm seeing from Hurt if he continues to progress, but I wouldn't mind a bit more depth along the interior line.

I don't think this is the best idea in the world, but to me, it should be considered before cutting young O Lineman...not saying Heyer or Capers would have been great guards, but I think they may have been a fit there as opposed to the more demanding tackle position.

The only problem I have with Hall being FS is he takes too many chances. I'd rather he stay at CB with a FS over the top to clean up his messes vs. putting him in at FS and he being the last man takes a chance and the result is a TD for the opponant. The team definitly needs a FS who is not afraid to hit and can run sideline to sideline to help the CB's.
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The only problem I have with Hall being FS is he takes too many chances. I'd rather he stay at CB with a FS over the top to clean up his messes vs. putting him in at FS and he being the last man takes a chance and the result is a TD for the opponant. The team definitly needs a FS who is not afraid to hit and can run sideline to sideline to help the CB's.
Oh, I totally agree, I just think he'd probably be the most likely candidate to make the switch. That said, I don't want him trying to stop a running back in the hole and I really don't want to see him being the over the top guy because, as you stated, he takes too many chances. I don't want to see him back there, though.
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