The Skins Are Really A Very Horrible Bad Team

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Nope, as was said to me after the first game, ....injuries are no excuse ...all teams have them and must deal with them, "players need to step up".

Amen. As long as we are in the rebuilding mode, having a group of young guys stepping in now builds very quality depth. The returns on the experience is nothing but a positive and results will show in future. Blocks that sit around cant be built without a little action. These injuries though bad, bring indirect benefits.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No, in other words our previous "GM" was so incompetent and big name hungry that our salary cap situation left no option for bringing in competent back up players and our new FO knows that when you build, you do it one step at a time. Regardless of basic fan stupidity(just to be cleared not calling anyone here stupid )

By the way you are implying someone is stupid(namely me). Siging McNabb, then dumping him within a season for Grossman was Vinnyesque if you ask me. The move for Beck was a 180 degree move away from "Vinnyism" and getting the sexy big name, but still as asanine as a Vinny move. Getting rid of McNabb was wise, but not replacing him either via draft or FA was nuts. I guess my point is if they were going to wait to build the O line before acquiring the anointed QB via the draft, why bring in the big name FA QB then drop him like a dead fly before the first season is over. I have been a Skins fan since I was a boy, so I can endure this never ending rebuilding cycle we have been stuck in for 20 years, but what I don't like is a total regression within the space of one calendar year.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

By the way you are implying someone is stupid(namely me). Siging McNabb, then dumping him within a season for Grossman was Vinnyesque if you ask me. The move for Beck was a 180 degree move away from "Vinnyism" and getting the sexy big name, but still as asanine as a Vinny move. Getting rid of McNabb was wise, but not replacing him either via draft or FA was nuts. I guess my point is if they were going to wait to build the O line before acquiring the anointed QB via the draft, why bring in the big name FA QB then drop him like a dead fly before the first season is over. I have been a Skins fan since I was a boy, so I can endure this never ending rebuilding cycle we have been stuck in for 20 years, but what I don't like is a total regression within the space of one calendar year.

I honestly wasn't saying anyone was stupid, not you or anyone else on this forum.

I can give the explanation that I believe about McNabb, but overall I hated the move early and hated it at the end. But no front office gets every call right, and in the end if in two more years we still are rummaging in the basement of the nfc east then it will be time for a change. For me other than the qb, I think most of the moves have at least the potential to move us in the right direction, and I think that the whole FO knew that they were taking a new young qb in 2012 and the thing they were hoping or expecting with McNabb was to give a fresh start at qb, while setting up a positive change as the rookie got his feet going. Clearly they misjudged McNabbs ability in that respect.

[skinsfaninok]

Skins have been rebuilding since I was 5 smh how do u think I feel???

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

In other words, our new GM is in over his head.

My statement does not logically entail that.

[NC_Skins]

Bill Simmons ranks the NFL QBs from the transcendent to the putrid - Grantland

35. Rex Grossman
36. John Beck
Redskins fans arguing about Beck and Grossman is like Van Halen fans arguing about Mitch Malloy and Gary Cherone.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Skins have been rebuilding since I was 5 smh how do u think I feel???

I personally think they've been rebuilding since this year. They've been losing like a rebuilding team for a long time.

[DynamiteRave]

So do you guys think we'll keep either Rexy or Beck (okay, I know it's not gonna be him, but I have to include him) as our second string next season or we scrap them both and go after someone else?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

So do you guys think we'll keep either Rexy or Beck (okay, I know it's not gonna be him, but I have to include him) as our second string next season or we scrap them both and go after someone else?

I think after this year, you cant bring either back. I would seriously think 2 new QBs in the draft. And a new vet brought in as well.

[skinsfaninok]

I don't see how beck or Rex comes back maybe grossman as a backup

[SmootSmack]

Well Beck is under contract for another year, Grossman is a free agent

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

So do you guys think we'll keep either Rexy or Beck (okay, I know it's not gonna be him, but I have to include him) as our second string next season or we scrap them both and go after someone else?

I hope (and think) that there will be a complete housecleaning at QB...except perhaps for Crompton.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I hope (and think) that there will be a complete housecleaning at QB...except perhaps for Crompton.

You cant get rid of the future

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think after this year, you cant bring either back. I would seriously think 2 new QBs in the draft. And a new vet brought in as well.

I don't like either, but you still need one guy who "knows the system". It's not like we have Rodgers waiting on the bench ready to take the reins like GB had.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Team is a QB away from being a contender in this division. Shanny and Co. have being building in different areas as in the entire defense, Oline, RB and getting a decent group of young receivers. Everyone can see Fred Davis has grown into a good TE. We are trending in the right direction.

I expect heavy focus on the offense in the offseason as the defense seemed to be priority last year.

Rebuilding is hard to stomach, but at least we are finally taking the right steps. Add a QB, free agent WR, starter or 2 on the Oline, depth in the secondary, a new ILB...we will be solid.

I dont know if anyone has seen the free agents list for next year, but they are plentiful at RB, WR, OG, Center...all positions we need to improve in.

You do realize that Fred Davis is a free agent after this year. If "everyone can see Fred Davis has grown into a good tight end" as you say, he might just wind up somewhere else next year...