What's your take on our coaching?

[SmootSmack]

I don't know. I mean I get that Elway was a star QB before Shanahan got there. But he had his best years as a QB (both statistically and rings wise) under Shanahan. And Young blossomed under Shanahan as his offensive coordinator. Griese, I believe enjoyed his best years under Shanahan as did Plummer. Would Cutler have had a different career trajectory if he hadn't been selected by Shanahan and the Broncos? I don't know. And how does he not get any credit for Terrell Davis?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know. I mean I get that Elway was a star QB before Shanahan got there. But he had his best years as a QB (both statistically and rings wise) under Shanahan. And Young blossomed under Shanahan as his offensive coordinator. Griese, I believe enjoyed his best years under Shanahan as did Plummer. Would Cutler have had a different career trajectory if he hadn't been selected by Shanahan and the Broncos? I don't know. And how does he not get any credit for Terrell Davis?

These are all fair points and probably exposing my bias against more than yours for Mike (if one exists). Young is especially good example. Elway had the best situation while Mike was in Denver and yest that had a lot to do with Mike's running scheme. Some of us always wondered if that stellar ground game could work outside the suspect AFC West. So far?

...I didn't remember Mike selecting Terrell. Dude was a beast and w/o the injury would have been a legit GOAT contender.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

These are all fair points and probably exposing my bias against more than yours for Mike (if one exists). Young is especially good example. Elway had the best situation while Mike was in Denver and yest that had a lot to do with Mike's running scheme. Some of us always wondered if that stellar ground game could work outside the suspect AFC West. So far?

...I didn't remember Mike selecting Terrell. Dude was a beast and w/o the injury would have been a legit GOAT contender.

I thought Shanahan and Davis both came in 1995.

I don't have any bias for Mike Shanahan, I'm kind of neutral toward him.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by The Goat

These are all fair points and probably exposing my bias against more than yours for Mike (if one exists). Young is especially good example. Elway had the best situation while Mike was in Denver and yest that had a lot to do with Mike's running scheme. Some of us always wondered if that stellar ground game could work outside the suspect AFC West. So far?

...I didn't remember Mike selecting Terrell. Dude was a beast and w/o the injury would have been a legit GOAT contender.

That stellar ground game has done well in Houston, Oakland(when Cable introduced it), and Tennessee.