Unbreakable Records

Daseal · 05-22-2005, 05:19 PM

Just like Walton Payton's record would never be beaten? All records were made, therefore can always be one upped as long as there's a medium to do it.

SmootSmack · 05-22-2005, 05:51 PM

Even the most pessimistic puppy kicker would have to admit-I think-that some records are highly untouchable, such as Cy Young's 511 career wins.

Daseal · 05-22-2005, 06:26 PM

It's impressive without a doubt, but I don't think it's untouchable. Did anyone think Cy would get 511 wins when he started? Doubt it. Who says 512 couldn't come. You'd have to play for a damn long time, but I cans ee it happening eventually.

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-22-2005, 09:48 PM

well the thing about Cy Youngs record is that most if not all of that came against inferiour talent and he never competed against anyone other than white men to achieve his record. He also pitched in an era where I believe they pitched on 3 day cycles. Now a days its going to be difficult for pitchers to break the 300-350 win mark much less 511. To put it in perspective a 20 year old pitcher would have to win an average of 20 games a year for 26 years to get 520 wins and with 5 man rotations and the frequent injuries occuring now, I personally believe the possibility is very very remote.

FRPLG · 05-23-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

It's impressive without a doubt, but I don't think it's untouchable. Did anyone think Cy would get 511 wins when he started? Doubt it. Who says 512 couldn't come. You'd have to play for a damn long time, but I cans ee it happening eventually.

I am generally in your camp on stuff like this but I would say with 100% confidence that it is impossible with the way the game is now played for Young's record to be broken. Is it possible that the dynamics of the gaem could change so greatly that it would be posible? Yeah it is possible but not even remotely likely. 511 wins is untouchable plaina nd simple. Guys are revered when they get to 300 now. 511 would mean 10 more years at 20 wins a season. Not gonna happen.

firstdown · 05-23-2005, 03:50 PM

Tiger's record which is very good will be broken, maybe not in our lifetime but it will fall.With Tigers you have to only beat out half of the field and can be in last place come Sunday. Their will be that special player like Tiger , Jack, Hogan etc that will be better than half the field in any given tournament.

05-22-2005, 05:19 PM	#16
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Unbreakable Records Just like Walton Payton's record would never be beaten? All records were made, therefore can always be one upped as long as there's a medium to do it. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-22-2005, 05:51 PM	#17
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Unbreakable Records Even the most pessimistic puppy kicker would have to admit-I think-that some records are highly untouchable, such as Cy Young's 511 career wins. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-22-2005, 06:26 PM	#18
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Unbreakable Records It's impressive without a doubt, but I don't think it's untouchable. Did anyone think Cy would get 511 wins when he started? Doubt it. Who says 512 couldn't come. You'd have to play for a damn long time, but I cans ee it happening eventually. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-22-2005, 09:48 PM	#19
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Re: Unbreakable Records well the thing about Cy Youngs record is that most if not all of that came against inferiour talent and he never competed against anyone other than white men to achieve his record. He also pitched in an era where I believe they pitched on 3 day cycles. Now a days its going to be difficult for pitchers to break the 300-350 win mark much less 511. To put it in perspective a 20 year old pitcher would have to win an average of 20 games a year for 26 years to get 520 wins and with 5 man rotations and the frequent injuries occuring now, I personally believe the possibility is very very remote.

05-23-2005, 03:50 PM	#21
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Unbreakable Records Tiger's record which is very good will be broken, maybe not in our lifetime but it will fall.With Tigers you have to only beat out half of the field and can be in last place come Sunday. Their will be that special player like Tiger , Jack, Hogan etc that will be better than half the field in any given tournament.

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