Steve Jobs quits as Apple CEO, Cook takes over

[saden1]

One of the reason apple has succeeded is because the engineers ran the shop rather than the suits. So long as they continue to let their engineers drive product development they will be fine though I can't say the same for the iPhone's long term sales prospect vs Android.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

One of the reason apple has succeeded is because the engineers ran the shop rather than the suits. So long as they continue to let their engineers drive product development they will be fine though I can't say the same for the iPhone's long term sales prospect vs Android.

Good post.

I don't work in the mobile device market, why do you sound bullish on the Androids? Just from my limited experience, the Droids seem to be far more unstable than the iPhone. Do you think they'll eventually get this fixed? It was explained to me that with such an open OS, and all the apps written, there's no way to test them all and lock-ups/crashes almost can't be avoided.

I use Blackberry for work and don't load any apps, I never have a problem. My wife uses very basic apps (facebook mostly) and her droid is constantly having issues (we've replaced it once and reset it several times). My son was using the droid with the same problems as my wife, he upgraded to iPhone and hasn't complained of any issues.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Good post.

I don't work in the mobile device market, why do you sound bullish on the Androids? Just from my limited experience, the Droids seem to be far more unstable than the iPhone. Do you think they'll eventually get this fixed? It was explained to me that with such an open OS, and all the apps written, there's no way to test them all and lock-ups/crashes almost can't be avoided.

I use Blackberry for work and don't load any apps, I never have a problem. My wife uses very basic apps (facebook mostly) and her droid is constantly having issues (we've replaced it once and reset it several times). My son was using the droid with the same problems as my wife, he upgraded to iPhone and hasn't complained of any issues.

Strength in numbers...the numbers of devices available, the number of manufacturer to choose from and what it costs to acquire an Android phone. Android has surpassed iPhone in sales last November and from the looks of it it's gaining ground though mostly at the expense of Nokia, RIM, Palm/HP, and Microsoft.

Android comprised 43.4% of 107 million smartphones sold in Q2 of the year which is an amazing feat in a 3 year span. I mean it's kinda scary how Android only had 36% market share in Q1. It won't be long before Android sales will be at Apple's expense too.

Sure, Apple has a dedicated user base but what of the less dedicated users which make up for the vast majority of their sales? Why wouldn't they pickup the Galaxy S II from Samsung? It certainly is more feature rich and as polished if not more so than iPhone 4. iPhone sales isn't growing as fast which to me indicates the novelty and innovation of it is no longer an advantage they can count on. The iPhone will still sell but the time will tell if they will suffer the same fate as the rest of the mobile companies who are slowly bleeding to death and from a developer standpoint their is no contest as to which platform is easier to develop applications for and it is after all about the Apps.

Motorola is 3rd tier Android phone manufacturer. Now that Google has bought Motorola's Mobility division I expect it to get way way way better.


The monster is at the fcking door! It was first Microsoft Windows and now it's Google Android.

[mlmpetert]

^ Very sad to hear about Jobs, he truly was a innovator.

Im a android guy. Ive had the original droid and now im on a droid 2 after having several in-between. The original was the best in terms of things not crashing and other clunky type issues. It was also far and away the best in terms of not coming loaded down with bloatware. The problem is that’s its slow compared to newer phones.

Andriod is great. The problem is phone companies put a bootloader on top of android to customize it. I think this is the reason some apps work for some phones with no problem and crash for other phones. I think its also the reason you absolutely cannot get rid of some of the bloatware apps (ie blockbuster and amazon). A lot of the original techie guys that adopted droid are really really pissed about the bootloader issue and especially the phone manufactures that lock it due to pressure by phone carriers. Motorola locks their boot loader. After pressure HTC stopped locking theirs to much fan fare. Im thinking (and hoping) Google’s purchase of Motorola is to take control back and let the phones be what they were initially intended to be, customizable droid powered phones that arnt filled with all sorts of crap and clunky UI’s that cant ever be changed.

Saying that I rarely have problems with my phone. I also cant do iphone because it doesnt have a qwerty keyboard.