Redskins vs. Steelers Preseason Pre-Game Thread

[MTK]

Per John Keim


WR Niles Paul. Has stood out because of his consistent hands. He’s a physical player and is as anxious as anyone to show it on the field. I like that he pesters WR coach Keenan McCardell for more reps/time. He needs to polish his routes.

On pace for: Practice squad/No. 6 WR spot. Long way to go but had a good opening two weeks. Needs to make plays on special teams in the preseason. Right now he’s behind guys like Terrence Austin and Donte Stallworth. But can you keep Stallworth as a fifth or sixth WR if he doesn’t play special teams. Don’t think so.


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[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Per John Keim


WR Niles Paul. Has stood out because of his consistent hands. He’s a physical player and is as anxious as anyone to show it on the field. I like that he pesters WR coach Keenan McCardell for more reps/time. He needs to polish his routes.

On pace for: Practice squad/No. 6 WR spot. Long way to go but had a good opening two weeks. Needs to make plays on special teams in the preseason. Right now he’s behind guys like Terrence Austin and Donte Stallworth. But can you keep Stallworth as a fifth or sixth WR if he doesn’t play special teams. Don’t think so.


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I hate Stallworth on this team. 3 catches last year and nothing special with a loaded Pats team two years before that. Now he's going to possibly result in us cutting a promising young receiver just so we can repeat the Joey Galloway experiment.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I hate Stallworth on this team. 3 catches last year and nothing special with a loaded Pats team two years before that. Now he's going to possibly result in us cutting a promising young receiver just so we can repeat the Joey Galloway experiment.

Doubt he even makes the team unless he plays his ass off in these games or someone gets hurt.

As Keim says do you keep him as a #5 who doesn't even play ST? Doubt it.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Per John Keim


WR Niles Paul. Has stood out because of his consistent hands. He’s a physical player and is as anxious as anyone to show it on the field. I like that he pesters WR coach Keenan McCardell for more reps/time. He needs to polish his routes.

On pace for: Practice squad/No. 6 WR spot. Long way to go but had a good opening two weeks. Needs to make plays on special teams in the preseason. Right now he’s behind guys like Terrence Austin and Donte Stallworth. But can you keep Stallworth as a fifth or sixth WR if he doesn’t play special teams. Don’t think so.


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I believe this guy John Keim was on sports radio 910 yesterday. He mentioned that Banks has some off the field issues...attitude type stuff. The coaching staff doesn't want to make a long committment to this guy and don't be suprised if he doesn't get cut. Really surprising b/c i've never heard it before.

But yes i'd guess Paul or Austin for that last spot. Paul is known as a special teams standout right? KR?

Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Hankerson, and Paul I'm guessing.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I believe this guy John Keim was on sports radio 910 yesterday. He mentioned that Banks has some off the field issues...attitude type stuff. The coaching staff doesn't want to make a long committment to this guy and don't be suprised if he doesn't get cut. Really surprising b/c i've never heard it before.

It's been brought up here a few times these past couple of months

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I believe this guy John Keim was on sports radio 910 yesterday. He mentioned that Banks has some off the field issues...attitude type stuff. The coaching staff doesn't want to make a long committment to this guy and don't be suprised if he doesn't get cut. Really surprising b/c i've never heard it before.

But yes i'd guess Paul or Austin for that last spot. Paul is known as a special teams standout right? KR?

Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Hankerson, and Paul I'm guessing.

With the rule change on kickoffs, Banks position is gradually going to become one in less demand. A weapon being handicapped by rule changes.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

With the rule change on kickoffs, Banks position is gradually going to become one in less demand. A weapon being handicapped by rule changes.

Banks will still be a weapon on punts. The rule won't affect punt returns at all.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Banks will still be a weapon on punts. The rule won't affect punt returns at all.

Plus the other thing to remember is that while the total number of touchbacks is going to skyrocket, the value of a long return is going to say the same or possibly get more valuable. It's going to happen less across the league, not just to Brandon Banks.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Banks will still be a weapon on punts. The rule won't affect punt returns at all.

I really like Banks and hope his knee improves to the point where he will regain the speed he demonstrated that helped land him a spot on the team. With so many WR's in camp he's going to have to prove himself within the ranks of the competition.

That's the way for him to increase his chances of making the roster; contribute as a wide receiver, his listed position. On a 53-man roster, it's hard to justify keeping a player who is just a return specialist, no matter how good he is. Banks played just 15 snaps at receiver last year, but to his credit he does want to do more.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I believe this guy John Keim was on sports radio 910 yesterday. He mentioned that Banks has some off the field issues...attitude type stuff. The coaching staff doesn't want to make a long committment to this guy and don't be suprised if he doesn't get cut. Really surprising b/c i've never heard it before.

But yes i'd guess Paul or Austin for that last spot. Paul is known as a special teams standout right? KR?

Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Hankerson, and Paul I'm guessing.

Really, Banks? Can't claim to know him but he seems like one of those 'nicest guy in the world' types. Fun loving guy, always seems to be smiling, and most importantly turns around field position when someone doesn't block an opposing player in the back.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I believe this guy John Keim was on sports radio 910 yesterday. He mentioned that Banks has some off the field issues...attitude type stuff. The coaching staff doesn't want to make a long committment to this guy and don't be suprised if he doesn't get cut. Really surprising b/c i've never heard it before.

But yes i'd guess Paul or Austin for that last spot. Paul is known as a special teams standout right? KR?

Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong, Hankerson, and Paul I'm guessing.

Yeah my boss was talking about this today. Apparently Banks has a big attitude, i never saw him as that type of guy before either. I think SS alluded to that a incident may have happened with Banks that we dont know about, in addition to the stabbing thing. Maybe it was his locker-room attitude.

And although i think kickoff returners are now significantly less important i agree with Buster that punt returns is where he needs to be a weapon at. Although I was more impressed with his punt return then his kick returns there’s a much more important duty when returning punts; making sure you don’t drop it…. which banks has had a little bit of trouble with. I say if he drops one kick off or one punt in the pre-season hes gone. Either way I think hes on the outside looking in and is gonna have to have a bunch of nice returns, no drops, and one TD return or doesn’t make it. He was the funnest thing to watch on the team last year and I hope he makes it, just not sure at what cost.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Yeah my boss was talking about this today. Apparently Banks has a big attitude, i never saw him as that type of guy before either. I think SS alluded to that a incident may have happened with Banks that we dont know about, in addition to the stabbing thing. Maybe it was his locker-room attitude.

And although i think kickoff returners are now significantly less important i agree with Buster that punt returns is where he needs to be a weapon at. Although I was more impressed with his punt return then his kick returns there’s a much more important duty when returning punts; making sure you don’t drop it…. which banks has had a little bit of trouble with. I say if he drops one kick off or one punt in the pre-season hes gone. Either way I think hes on the outside looking in and is gonna have to have a bunch of nice returns, no drops, and one TD return or doesn’t make it. He was the funnest thing to watch on the team last year and I hope he makes it, just not sure at what cost.

Where kickoff returns are concerned, I look for ST coordinators to devise schemes where kickoffs will be higher and shorter with hopes of being able to pin the receiving team inside the twenty as opposed to just kicking the ball into the endzone and the receiving team being awarded the twenty yd. line automatically. Savvy ST coordinators will take advantage of the rule.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Where kickoff returns are concerned, I look for ST coordinators to devise schemes where kickoffs will be higher and shorter with hopes of being able to pin the receiving team inside the twenty as opposed to just kicking the ball into the endzone and the receiving team being awarded the twenty yd. line automatically. Savvy ST coordinators will take advantage of the rule.

For sure. And I don't think it will take very long. Probably by Week four of the season, a number of teams will be using directional strategies on kickoffs.

And you'll need a good return man to force other teams to kick touchbacks to get even decent field position. I expect leaguewide points scored to decrease significantly this season.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Where kickoff returns are concerned, I look for ST coordinators to devise schemes where kickoffs will be higher and shorter with hopes of being able to pin the receiving team inside the twenty as opposed to just kicking the ball into the endzone and the receiving team being awarded the twenty yd. line automatically. Savvy ST coordinators will take advantage of the rule.

totally agree with you and this is only preseason. No one wants to divulge all their sneaky tricks right now. So I'm guessing most teams will simply kick through the endzone so there is no injuries prior to the season starting.