Should T.O. be a first ballot Hall of Famer?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Leader In Sports

Was Art Monk a first ballot guy? While he should have been, sadly, the answer is no.

More than the numbers play into the HOF voting. If I was picking a team of rookies with a crystal ball, I certainly would take Art Monk way head of T.O.

I second that and for that matter, I would take Monk over Rice any day.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I second that and for that matter, I would take Monk over Rice any day.

Over Rice? I love Monk but let's come back down to reality.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Over Rice? I love Monk but let's come back down to reality.

Beat me to it.

In the history of the NFL, ranking for WRs are:

1. Rice
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Rice is the GOAT and it is not even close.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Over Rice? I love Monk but let's come back down to reality.

I think I agree with you. If given the choice and I can't have both..... I'll take Rice over Monk everyday and twice on Sunday. Monks my boy but Rice is to WR's what D.Green (Skins) was to CB's.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Over Rice? I love Monk but let's come back down to reality.

Who did Monk have for QB's and who did Rice have? Monk's #'s with 1 good QB and 2 average QB are impressive, what would he have done with back to back HOF QB's. Don't under estimate Monk.

[Leader In Sports]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Who did Monk have for QB's and who did Rice have? Monk's #'s with 1 good QB and 2 average QB are impressive, what would he have done with back to back HOF QB's. Don't under estimate Monk.

Montana had success before Jerry Rice. Steve Young however would not be in the HOF without have the benefit of Rice's talent.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Who did Monk have for QB's and who did Rice have? Monk's #'s with 1 good QB and 2 average QB are impressive, what would he have done with back to back HOF QB's. Don't under estimate Monk.

Not underestimating him at all. I just don't put Monk in the class of Rice. I wouldn't put anyone in his class.

Monk was very good, Rice was great. Some even argue the single best football player to have played the game. Never heard anyone make that argument for Monk.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not underestimating him at all. I just don't put Monk in the class of Rice. I wouldn't put anyone in his class.

Monk was very good, Rice was great. Some even argue the single best football player to have played the game. Never heard anyone make that argument for Monk.

You don't consider Art Monk a great wide receiver?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

You don't consider Art Monk a great wide receiver?

Great as in the same class as Rice? No.

What's wrong with saying he was very good?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

You don't consider Art Monk a great wide receiver?

He WAS great. However, Rice was the GOAT. You just can't compare ANYONE with Rice. This can be said without denigrating or disrespecting Monk or anyone else you're talking about.

It's like talking about Michael Jordan in basketball. Yes, there WERE other great players, but they're not Mike.

Rice vs. Monk is about equivalent to talking about Jordan vs. Dr. J.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I second that and for that matter, I would take Monk over Rice any day.

You would take Art Monk over Jerry Rice any day?

Should you ever apply for a job as a scout or in a personnel department for any NFL team, be sure to erase completely and permanently that comment from the Internet. That sentence alone will prevent you from getting that job.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

You would take Art Monk over Jerry Rice any day?

Should you ever apply for a job as a scout or in a personnel department for any NFL team, be sure to erase completely and permanently that comment from the Internet. That sentence alone will prevent you from getting that job.

Maybe he could intern at the school of Vinny?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Maybe he could intern at the school of Vinny?

To bring this full circle; TO was drafted by Vinny!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I second that and for that matter, I would take Monk over Rice any day.

SFREDSKIN your homerism is hilarious. As much as we all love Art Monk, he was simply not the wr Jerry Rice was. Rice was a game breaker who could take a 5 yard slant all the way. Monk simply didn't have those kind of skills and very few did. Yeah having great QB's helped, but even if you put Monk in the old 49ers offense w/ Montana and Young, he's still not the TD producer that Rice was.