Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The longer that Albert Haynesworth is on the roster, the longer that the media will continue to remind everyone of the dysfunction that is this team. In the end, I see this as a way for the team to not admit that they made a mistake. They'd rather continue this drama and media circus rather than cutting their losses, admitting their mistake, and moving on from this error.

And it appears to be working, since we have fans clamoring for the team to "discipline Haynesworth" and "letting him rot on the bench" and blah blah blah blah. As I said before, if the team wants to change the culture, it needs to start by admitting their mistakes and moving on from them.

Screw the media. They'll be on us no matter what we do, it's always been that way, at least since Dan Snyder became the owner. They'll still rehash their same worn out lines about Snyder interfering and us blindly spending on everything that walks, even though those things aren't true anymore. Snyder has actually become the owner he should be, letting real football guys make the decisions. Haynesworth is a pre-Allen/Shanahan mess and it will be over soon enough. Then, they'll go back to bashing us for something else and if desperate for a real story, say we have a racost name and stir that political pot again.

If Haynesworth had even tried and played up to his actual talent level, no one would be complaining about his ridiculously-high contract or saying we're "disfunctional". The team can not be bashed much for this mess, other than taking a risk. Albert was a Pro-Bowl player, one of the best D-linemen in the game...and simply laid down and stopped trying. In the few instances he did try last year (Chicago game for example), he showed his dominance and what we paid for, but the majority of his time here, he's been a selfish, lazy headcase with legal issues to boot.

Yes I want him gone, but it has absolutely nothing about the media's opinion. If we strive to please them, we'll fail miserably and wreck the team on top of that. The media will never give us credit, let alone love us.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Yes I want him gone, but it has absolutely nothing about the media's opinion. If we strive to please them, we'll fail miserably and wreck the team on top of that. The media will never give us credit, let alone love us.

If you want him gone I have no argument against you. I just don't understand people's obsession with keeping the guy on the team. I have yet to read an argument that makes sense. Sadly, it seems that the NFL hasn't cared much about Haynesworth's issues (surprisingly) and suspended him. Unless that happen, he's just going to sit on the bench utilizing a roster spot and getting paid. Hell, that already happened last season.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If you want him gone I have no argument against you. I just don't understand people's obsession with keeping the guy on the team. I have yet to read an argument that makes sense. Sadly, it seems that the NFL hasn't cared much about Haynesworth's issues (surprisingly) and suspended him. Unless that happen, he's just going to sit on the bench utilizing a roster spot and getting paid. Hell, that already happened last season.

Let's hope that doesn't happen again this season. My greatest concern about having AH around is that we will be adding 12 draftees plus any UDFA's (and probably some veteran FA's) to the squad by training camp and I don't want him to be a bad example to impressionable young players. I hope that Redskins management will trade or release him by then.

[mlmpetert]

Its not about teaching him a lesson, its about making AH an example and using him to teach the team a lesson. I don’t think Shanahan really cares about the money Danny spent on AH, I think its more about the laziness and unwilliness that AH shows, the fact that he took the bonus check (instead of finding a trade partner) then not showing up to minicamp, then showing up out of shape to mandatory camp, then refusing to play NT, and then pretty much refusing to play at all. Sure AH stole money from Danny (who wouldn’t), but he also betrayed Shanahan. Now AH is the main subject in teaching The Redskins (the players) a lesson.

I dont really care one way or another if we keep him or not but if I was forced to choose i think keeping him is probably the better option. And im pretty much cool with whatever Shanahan decides to do with him, im guessing he has a better idea with what resonates with a football team then me. And like Shanahan and Allen probably feel I honestly don’t think it’s a big deal or distraction for the team. Its probably awkward for the guy that has his locker right next to AH’s but that’s about it. Because of AH’s past play and massive contract hes a high profile dude and a lot of people are going to take notice when he f’s up. When a high profile crime is committed most DA’s try to send a message by really sticking it to the bad guy. This is pretty much the same thing. The media may boo-hoo whats going on or make it out to be a big deal, but so what. The Redskins happen to be one of the most dysfunctional teams in the country. Until we consistently win it doesn’t matter what the media thinks of us or portrays us as, because lets face it…… we’re irrelevant.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Its not about teaching him a lesson, its about making AH an example and using him to teach the team a lesson.

Which players need to be taught a lesson?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Which players need to be taught a lesson?

Ha! That's funny.
It was our former FO that made the mistake. It is our current FO and coach that thought they could trust AH to play in a 3-4 and give him a big check.
They had the option of getting rid of him at that time and not giving him the check. The current players on our roster did nothing wrong and do not need to be taught a lesson. Other than playing like Shizen and getting better on the field.
A post-it to the forehead would do the same thing and be less costly. The salary cap most likely will be back next season and I do not want a player on the bench collecting a big check. No lesson in the world is worth that.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Which players need to be taught a lesson?

Not in a bad way..... I mean use him to set a tone for how things are going to run around Redskins Park to all current and would be players. Just like making an example out of a high profile criminal serves as a broad announcement to the general public, the same thing goes here.

Again i dont really care either way what happens, but getting upset about not cutting him and moving on is just as bad as grabbing your pitch fork and joining the mob that wants to hang him in the streets. Im thinking its not a big deal inside the organization. Until I hear players or coaches come out and say the Shanahan Allen regime is running the team like their predecessors its just a non-factor to me.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Its not about teaching him a lesson, its about making AH an example and using him to teach the team a lesson. I don’t think Shanahan really cares about the money Danny spent on AH, I think its more about the laziness and unwilliness that AH shows, the fact that he took the bonus check (instead of finding a trade partner) then not showing up to minicamp, then showing up out of shape to mandatory camp, then refusing to play NT, and then pretty much refusing to play at all. Sure AH stole money from Danny (who wouldn’t), but he also betrayed Shanahan. Now AH is the main subject in teaching The Redskins (the players) a lesson.

I dont really care one way or another if we keep him or not but if I was forced to choose i think keeping him is probably the better option. And im pretty much cool with whatever Shanahan decides to do with him, im guessing he has a better idea with what resonates with a football team then me. And like Shanahan and Allen probably feel I honestly don’t think it’s a big deal or distraction for the team. Its probably awkward for the guy that has his locker right next to AH’s but that’s about it. Because of AH’s past play and massive contract hes a high profile dude and a lot of people are going to take notice when he f’s up. When a high profile crime is committed most DA’s try to send a message by really sticking it to the bad guy. This is pretty much the same thing. The media may boo-hoo whats going on or make it out to be a big deal, but so what. The Redskins happen to be one of the most dysfunctional teams in the country. Until we consistently win it doesn’t matter what the media thinks of us or portrays us as, because lets face it…… we’re irrelevant.

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Saw this post before somewhere.