Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011

[MTK]

Jenkins would be a nice pickup for sure.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Jenkins would be a nice pickup for sure.

Now all we have to do is add both Kris and Cullen and let the marketing department do the rest of the work.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

First to post!

Report: Mutual interest between Redskins, Cullen Jenkins | ProFootballTalk




If by savior you mean a player that absolutely commands respects and destroys teams that are foolish enough to experiment with one on one blocking then no. However if you mean a guy that will win one on one, draw double teams, and bring those to a stalmate then yes, I feel that Neild is that guy. Nose Tackle isn't a very... difficult position to train people. It's more about being strong willed and fighting then it is about skill.

For now though I view Neild similarly to Chris Hoke of the Steelers. Yes they love having Casey Hampton at the nose but they know when he's injured or needs a rest they're in good hands with him. Also if you look at some of the guys starting at Nose Tackle in this league a good amount of them are in fact late round picks. (meaning rounds 4-7).

I would argue differently. Look at Hampton (Steelers), Cody and Ngata (Ravens), Kris Jenkins and then their first two picks this year (Jets). These guys were all drafted high. The good 3-4 teams all invest high picks at NT. Yes, they may use low rounders to add depth. But a good 3-4 always has a stud starter at NT rather than a late-round fill-in. The poor 3-4 defenses are poor in part because they don't invest in a NT.

We need a stud NT.

BTW I am not arguing against getting Cullen Jenkins if the price is right. We also need help at DE and he would be a good acquisition.

[Longtimefan]

[quote] "A 7th round choice and Bryant (mostly unproven) is not gonna cut it IMO. Our only true focus in free agency on the defensive side should be NT". [unquote]

I have no problem with the possibility of Cullen Jenkins becoming a Redskin. In all fairness to our young players looking to be developed, I'm mindful of the fact that every successful player now in the NFL was at some point in his career "unproven". I do have a fondness for players looking to prove themselves, especially when it's with the team that drafted them. That fact alone is important to those driven by the desire to succeed.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I would argue differently. Look at Hampton (Steelers), Cody and Ngata (Ravens), Kris Jenkins and then their first two picks this year (Jets). These guys were all drafted high. The good 3-4 teams all invest high picks at NT. Yes, they may use low rounders to add depth. But a good 3-4 always has a stud starter at NT rather than a late-round fill-in. The poor 3-4 defenses are poor in part because they don't invest in a NT.

We need a stud NT.

BTW I am not arguing against getting Cullen Jenkins if the price is right. We also need help at DE and he would be a good acquisition.

Why do you hate Cullen Jenkins. We need help at DE, especially if the price is right. Why are you saying it would be "the worst acquisition's in the history of football?"

By the way how do the quotes work on that last sentence. I mean I'm asking a question but I'm ending it with a quote that's a statement. Is it like this football?" or football"?

Anyway if we want a veteran I would suggest Jamaal Williams. He's from the area and has been an elite NT in the past, I'm imagining that he's still good and the reason he was released by the Bronco's was due to their switch to a 4-3. Don't want Kris Jenkins though as we don't need another former Panther space eater with lower body problems.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Why do you hate Cullen Jenkins. We need help at DE, especially if the price is right. Why are you saying it would be "the worst acquisition's in the history of football?"

By the way how do the quotes work on that last sentence. I mean I'm asking a question but I'm ending it with a quote that's a statement. Is it like this football?" or football"?

Anyway if we want a veteran I would suggest Jamaal Williams. He's from the area and has been an elite NT in the past, I'm imagining that he's still good and the reason he was released by the Bronco's was due to their switch to a 4-3. Don't want Kris Jenkins though as we don't need another former Panther space eater with lower body problems.

I have been misquoted before but you take it to a new level.

Williams might not be bad but like KJenkins he's getting long in the tooth. Aubrayo Franklin would kick some butt but he's 30 and likely will demand $$$$.

I think we should get Brandon Mebane - young, very capable, and likely not too expensive. We can add Cullen Jenkins, too. Then our DL will morph from perhaps the weakest unit on the team to a strong unit which will free Rak and Kerrigan to do the voodoo that they do so well.

[SirClintonPortis]

I dunno, it seems like NT can be filled either with low rounders like Franklin and Garay or high rounders like Raji, Hampton, etc. So all these guys must have a certain skillset that makes the successful at NT despite their large perceived differences. Here's hoping Neild has that skillset.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I dunno, it seems like NT can be filled either with low rounders like Franklin and Garay or high rounders like Raji, Hampton, etc. So all these guys must have a certain skillset that makes the successful at NT despite their large perceived differences. Here's hoping Neild has that skillset.

Someone PLEASE explain Franklin to me. Is he franchised or not? Because if he's not then he should be a top priority.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Someone PLEASE explain Franklin to me. Is he franchised or not? Because if he's not then he should be a top priority.

Thank you PFT for explaining this to me before my PEERS.

Aubrayo Franklin should get monster deal when lockout ends | ProFootballTalk

Franklin has been a fine run stopper the last two years. The Redskins figure to be at the top of the list of teams that show interest in him. The Jets, Texans, Broncos, Vikings, and Seahawks also have a need, with the 3-4 teams making the most sense.

Are you guys happy now. PFT just became more helpful then ALL OF YOU combined.

[MTK]

Props to you for finding your own answer rather than relying on your worthless peers.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Thank you PFT for explaining this to me before my PEERS.

Aubrayo Franklin should get monster deal when lockout ends | ProFootballTalk


Are you guys happy now. PFT just became more helpful then ALL OF YOU combined.

Of course, you are relying on PFT so maybe your peers just knew to keep quiet :cheeky-sm

[CultBrennan59]

I was just going to post what Dirtbag posted; Franklin being one of our top FA priorities.

Him, Cullen Jenkins, Ryan Harris, Lyle Sendline, and Davin Joseph would look good in skin uniforms, however, we shouldn't sign all these guys, since we need to build through the draft.

[SkinzWin]

I'm okay signing all of them given they are to short contracts with not a huge guaranteed amount of money and/or huge signing bonus like a Cerrato-esque FA signing would be. Allen knows how to write a contract up so I am no longer worried about that issue. If we aren't shelling out long terms and high guarantees, I say bring 'em on, the more the merrier.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Props to you for finding your own answer rather than relying on your worthless peers.

Thank you Matty. I don't mean to be critical of others but this group we have right now is just worthless. Are you guys retarted? I don't mean to be unfairly critical but I honestly think that none of you got past 2nd grade. You are blights on society. Again not being critical but you guys are nothing without me.

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I was just going to post what Dirtbag posted; Franklin being one of our top FA priorities.

Him, Cullen Jenkins, Ryan Harris, Lyle Sendline, and Davin Joseph would look good in skin uniforms, however, we shouldn't sign all these guys, since we need to build through the draft.

Franklin may not be the ideal ideal cut diamond like Paul Soliai but he does count as an ideal cut. He's the type of player where he's going to remind teams that Centers are usually their worst blockers and by not double teaming him you're risking a play in the backfield.

I will not blink if this teams backs up the money truck for Franklin

Carriker-J. Jenkins
Franklin-Neild-Bryant
C. Jenkins-Daniels-Holiday

Great rotation there and our linebackers suddenly don't have to pay roaming chargers. Every last one of those guys is capable of playing 2 gap defense.

By the way does anyone realize that Cullen Jenkins got 7 sacks last year as a 3-4 end?

Ryan Harris - Brown/Harris is probably a harder decision then Young/Beck. Brown has the higher ceiling and is capable of playing LT if god forbid something happens to Trent.

Harris on the other hand is younger and has experience in this system. However Harris has been oft injured lately and only played 16 games once in 4 years. I'm hoping that part of the reason he missed so many is McDaniels bias against zone blockers but I think it had more to do with injury.

In the end Harris/Brown is a situation where you will be dead in the water if you end up with neither player. I think Gaither is the failsafe option but I think I would prefer Brown mainly because I know he's healthy again and he's also the better player.

Lyle Sendline - Guilty by association. Cardinals have one of the worst O-Lines in the league so when I see one listed I find myself skeptical. However Arizona Cardinals center Lyle Sendlein flourishes in anonymity. Sadly though I think this team plans on staying with Rabach on top of the fact that we already have 4 centers, 5 if you count Silverback (Cook, Kory L, Montgomery, Rabach).

Davin Joesph - Want him on this team so badly. Even more then Franklin and Jenkins combined. However when the lockout is lifted we're likely to see 2010 rules which means theres now a 95% chance Joesph gets tendered.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Thank you Matty. I don't mean to be critical of others but this group we have right now is just worthless. Are you guys retarted? I don't mean to be unfairly critical but I honestly think that none of you got past 2nd grade. You are blights on society. Again not being critical but you guys are nothing without me.

We are not retarded in our spelling abilities, unlike other people.