Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011

GridIron26 · 03-07-2011, 11:23 AM

NFL.com news: Chargers LB Cooper believes time in San Diego is over

Think we should try go after him?

CultBrennan59 · 03-07-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

NFL.com news: Chargers LB Cooper believes time in San Diego is over

Think we should try go after him?

he s too small for th 3-4 thats why SD is getting rid of him

skinsfaninok · 03-07-2011, 11:54 PM

And the fact that he's not any good is also a reason

SmootSmack · 03-08-2011, 12:26 AM

Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html

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I wish I knew what was going on with the Dockery negotiations. I have heard however, from a pretty reliable source, that Dock’s agent’s initial proposal to the Redskins was a $17 million signing bonus. Yes, $17 million.

Now clearly (I think) this was just a starting point for further bargaining. But it gives you an idea of Dock and his agent’s (Todd France) ultimate asking price based on their starting point.

And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?

Dirtbag59 · 03-08-2011, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html

And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?

If the whole contract was 6 years $24 million then sure give him the $24 million bonus

Still based on the percentage of the signing bonus compared to the full contract value that Dockery received we'd be looking at a $65 million contract for Los. Might as well go after Nnadmi if you're willing to spend that type of money on a guy that can't catch.

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Math: Dockery Contract - $18 million Bonus/$49 million contract. $18/$49 = .367. Signing bonus is 36.7% of total contract

Rogers asking price = $24 million signing bonus. 24/.367 = $65 million.

diehard · 03-08-2011, 03:29 AM

Reality paints a really dim picture for the immediate future of this team but, we're not looking at a desperation move to re-sign Rogers. It's more likely he will get his money somewhere else just like Dockery did.

tryfuhl · 03-08-2011, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html

And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?

that's a lot of bread

I guess it depends what other options we end up having

Chico23231 · 03-08-2011, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html

And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?

It really doesnt surprise me. I think I would have said 20 mil guarenteed would do the trick for Los before, so 24 is still high. We got a lot room with all the cap space (I know its no cap NOW) we have created cutting people clearly not worth their contract. Its much easier to make an arguement for keeping Los than others on this team. If he is asking that much and looking at player value, you gotta think the CB from Oakland wouldnt be too far from 24 mil and a better player. Or I bet if you gave 20 mil guarrentte to Ike Taylor in Pittsburg he come play for us. So I think its high, kinda surprised with all the uncertainty Los wouldnt come off that number.

Alvin Walton · 03-08-2011, 07:15 AM

How can someone that plays with oven mitts on both hands ask for that much money?

skinsfaninok · 03-08-2011, 08:23 AM

Sorry but Los isn't worth that much

MTK · 03-08-2011, 08:52 AM

For that $$ I would have no problem letting #22 walk.

skinsfaninok · 03-08-2011, 09:39 AM

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Paintrain · 03-08-2011, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Loyal readers of TheWarpath may remember when I said this a few years ago

http://www.thewarpath.net/282232-post20.html

And it turned out he signed a deal with Buffalo that got included an $18 million signing bonus.

So...same source is telling me Los is asking for a $24 million signing bonus...and he's got the same agent as Dockery.

Now, could this source be wrong? Of course, but his track record tells me it's not quite so likely

What do you all think. $24 million? Worth it?

Here's what I would offer to Rogers. We will put 24 $1 million dollar checks in 24 footballs and throw them at you in a simulated live situation. Each ball you catch cleanly, you keep the million guaranteed in your contract. If you bobble or drop it, you get nothing. How much would he get guaranteed then?

SmootSmack · 03-08-2011, 10:14 AM

I dont know Todd France at all but I believe he's really influencing Los (like he did Dock) these are two guys who I know want (wanted) to stay. It's a shame they seem to be letting their agent dictate their course of action when it should be the other way around

freddyg12 · 03-08-2011, 10:28 AM

Would be sad if he left after wanting to stay. 24 mil bonus is way too much, I was thinking about 15 at most.

Maybe the difference will be that Dock got his $18 mil. from Buffalo, but does anyone really see Los getting $24 mil in this market? Or even 20ish? I haven't taken a look at the list of free agent CBs other than Asomougha & Taylor, but I think the market in general will be too flooded & cautious for a lot of huge signings.

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GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 36 Posts: 3,500	Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011 NFL.com news: Chargers LB Cooper believes time in San Diego is over Think we should try go after him?

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skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,174	Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011 And the fact that he's not any good is also a reason __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-08-2011, 03:29 AM	#336
diehard The Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, Va (OV) Posts: 1,566	Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011 Reality paints a really dim picture for the immediate future of this team but, we're not looking at a desperation move to re-sign Rogers. It's more likely he will get his money somewhere else just like Dockery did. __________________ *'Any NFL team will win with RG3. Imagine how exciting it will be watching him do it.'*

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skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,174	Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011 Sorry but Los isn't worth that much __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,174	Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011 Santonio says he’ll “sign back with the Jets” \| ProFootballTalk __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

03-08-2011, 10:14 AM	#344
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011 I dont know Todd France at all but I believe he's really influencing Los (like he did Dock) these are two guys who I know want (wanted) to stay. It's a shame they seem to be letting their agent dictate their course of action when it should be the other way around __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-08-2011, 10:28 AM	#345
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011 Would be sad if he left after wanting to stay. 24 mil bonus is way too much, I was thinking about 15 at most. Maybe the difference will be that Dock got his $18 mil. from Buffalo, but does anyone really see Los getting $24 mil in this market? Or even 20ish? I haven't taken a look at the list of free agent CBs other than Asomougha & Taylor, but I think the market in general will be too flooded & cautious for a lot of huge signings.

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