Free Agency/Franchise Tag thread 2011

[CultBrennan59]

So ryan kahlil was tagged, which means we'll just have to draft a center. Or go after Lyle Sendline of the cardinals, but I don't know if he'd fit the ZBS.

Interesting thing though, is that DAngelo Williams is now a FA, so we should definitely look at him, even though that doesn't fit the Shanahan RB approach.

Also I noticed a lot of hype around Rondey Hudson the G/C from FSU has gone away, I still think he's good and we should take a shot at him.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

The reason why I wouldn't give anyone a break-the-bank contract is the same reason why I would trade down in the first round to acquire more picks. It means the ability to pick up more quality players. I don't people realize that when you tie that much money up to one player it ends up hurting the team. Because it takes away the ability to improve the team in other areas. And god knows the redskins need to improve in almost every area of the team.

This has been my contention. But I'm
a Justin bieber kind of guy. I will never say never. There would be exceptions to this rule. But it would have to be a perfect situation.

I think we all would want that. I would like to trade down to around 20 and take Locker plus pick up another 2nd.

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I think we all would want that. I would like to trade down to around 20 and take Locker plus pick up another 2nd.

Dude. Youre not going to pick up a second round pick just by swapping someones 20th pick with our 10th. Maybe a 4th or at best a 3rd

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

So ryan kahlil was tagged, which means we'll just have to draft a center. Or go after Lyle Sendline of the cardinals, but I don't know if he'd fit the ZBS.

Interesting thing though, is that DAngelo Williams is now a FA, so we should definitely look at him, even though that doesn't fit the Shanahan RB approach.

Also I noticed a lot of hype around Rondey Hudson the G/C from FSU has gone away, I still think he's good and we should take a shot at him.

Warriorzpath, now THIS is a strategy I am strongly against.. Picking up players that don't fit your scheme, which we've done many times before, is crazy..

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

Dude. Youre not going to pick up a second round pick just by swapping someones 20th pick with our 10th. Maybe a 4th or at best a 3rd

A late 2nd? I bet you can

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

A late 2nd? I bet you can

Hey, I'm all for it but it just seems like alot to give up just to move up 10 picks.... But if a team really wants a player they'll do what it takes. The pats have picks to burn so maybe them.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

Hey, I'm all for it but it just seems like alot to give up just to move up 10 picks.... But if a team really wants a player they'll do what it takes. The pats have picks to burn so maybe them.

I still bet we pick at 10 though, idk what but I don't see us trading down

[SmootSmack]

Champ's staying in Denver

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Rice doesn't get the tag in Minny. If health is not an issue, he should be a FA priority. He's 24 and can be our #1 WR right away.

Source: Chad Greenway of Minnesota Vikings to get franchise tag - ESPN

For us to get him we'll likely have to go back to our old ways of overpaying. Guy can basically choose where he goes.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Some redskins fans never learn.

So what you're saying is that you don't want very talented players? You want them to work towards getting better after starting low? Even the best teams use free agency. You don't have to make ALL of your acquisitions big splashes but it sure doesn't hurt to have a premier player who hasn't had many issues.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Champ's staying in Denver

But I can still buy his house right?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

Dude. Youre not going to pick up a second round pick just by swapping someones 20th pick with our 10th. Maybe a 4th or at best a 3rd

depends who's there.. we traded our 21st pick for a 34 and 48 from ATL in 2008

I know that the draft value chart isn't concrete but that was a swap of 800 value for one of 980.. but the Falcs did have an extra pick they acquired elsewhere to give up

your example of 20 to 10.. 20 is 850 points, 10 is 1300.. let's just say it's an even trade at 450 points, you're looking at pick 45.. the first pick of round 4 is worth like 112 points, I'd say give or take 200 to figure out what might happen

of course there's been the whole next year's pick of higher value thing too

It really just depends who's on the board and what teams are looking at them. I could see 20 and a HIGH 3rd but I wouldn't take a 4th at all and even with the 3rd I'd be looking at another high round pick or at least swap with them.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Warriorzpath, now THIS is a strategy I am strongly against.. Picking up players that don't fit your scheme, which we've done many times before, is crazy..

Exactly. That's been our problem big time. Pick up Arch, expect him to play heavy coverage, etc. Jason Taylor and the list goes on.. we pick people who are good at a position and expect it to translate to a totally different scheme.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

depends who's there.. we traded our 21st pick for a 34 and 48 from ATL in 2008

I know that the draft value chart isn't concrete but that was a swap of 800 value for one of 980.. but the Falcs did have an extra pick they acquired elsewhere to give up

your example of 20 to 10.. 20 is 850 points, 10 is 1300.. let's just say it's an even trade at 450 points, you're looking at pick 45.. the first pick of round 4 is worth like 112 points, I'd say give or take 200 to figure out what might happen

of course there's been the whole next year's pick of higher value thing too

It really just depends who's on the board and what teams are looking at them. I could see 20 and a HIGH 3rd but I wouldn't take a 4th at all and even with the 3rd I'd be looking at another high round pick or at least swap with them.

Wisdom.

[skinsfaninok]

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