Carson Palmer demands trade, threatens to retire...

[MTK]

He needs a change of scenery.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

So Gtripp are you saying Palmer is better than mcnabb in their respective careers? No way IMO..

SS I think Cincy was waiting for this to happen I mean Palmer has done a solid job but the guy has never really won anything.. Of course no one really has with the bengals but was Palmer worth the Number 1 pick?

Well, McNabb has played longer than Palmer, so it's not really a great comparison. Palmer's peak was higher, but unless Palmer remains productive through roughly 2014, McNabb has the better career.

Yes, Palmer has been worth the number one pick. If Cinci thinks he's not worth the contract, they can release him now, but I don't think they're all that close to winning with or without Palmer.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Carson Palmer is the patron saint of Quarterbacks. Thanks to his injury in the playoffs some odd years ago it's now practically illegal to touch the QB.

His career really did seem to change after that playoff injury.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Carson Palmer is the patron saint of Quarterbacks. Thanks to his injury in the playoffs some odd years ago it's now practically illegal to touch the QB.

Yea but that was dirty

[celts32]

I would love to have palmer but not at the price of high draft picks and I doubt cinci will want anything other then draft picks if they traded him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by celts32

I would love to have palmer but not at the price of high draft picks and I doubt cinci will want anything other then draft picks if they traded him.

Well, Cincinnati was the team that didn't want to trade Chad for a first and third round offer from us.

If they want a high price for Palmer, that's their prerogative. He's theirs through 2013. I don't think the Bengals have very much around him. But perhaps they can hold out for a team willing to trade a lot for him to make a SB run.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No way in hell would I want Palmer. Old and washed up

I don't want to give up the draft picks it will take to bring in Palmer, but he's far from old and washed up. He just turned 31 less than a month ago.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't want to give up the draft picks it will take to bring in Palmer, but he's far from old and washed up. He just turned 31 less than a month ago.

Basically agree, though I don't know what they would want

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't want to give up the draft picks it will take to bring in Palmer, but he's far from old and washed up. He just turned 31 less than a month ago.

He's done dude heck he's already talking retirement. They won't take anything less than a 3rd for him and that's too high

[Chico23231]

I dont like the angle of "threatin retirement", think that is kinda weak and I question his love of the game. I heard he wanted to play on the west coast which is not good for us, but I would still make a pitch for this guy as long as it doenst involve a 1 or 2nd. Haynesworth might be an option to go.

I was all for bringin in McNabb and would be for Carson...I think both are pretty equal in ability, with McNabb it wasnt a system fit, if Shanny thinks its a better fit with Carson, pull the trigger. I think its better than over paying and taking any of those garbage projects at 10 in the draft or seeing Grossman fail next year.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I dont like the angle of "threatin retirement", think that is kinda weak and I question his love of the game. I heard he wanted to play on the west coast which is not good for us, but I would still make a pitch for this guy as long as it doenst involve a 1 or 2nd. Haynesworth might be an option to go.

I was all for bringin in McNabb and would be for Carson...I think both are pretty equal in ability, with McNabb it wasnt a system fit, if Shanny thinks its a better fit with Carson, pull the trigger. I think its better than over paying and taking any of those garbage projects at 10 in the draft or seeing Grossman fail next year.

So cam newton is garbage? Sorry he just won the heisman and a national champ.. Come on man seriously

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

So cam newton is garbage? Sorry he just won the heisman and a national champ.. Come on man seriously

Those arguments don't work in your favor. Plenty of people have won Heismans and national championships in college football and haven't amounted to ish in the NFL.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

So cam newton is garbage? Sorry he just won the heisman and a national champ.. Come on man seriously

heisman means zero.....he a decent prospect but a project. This is the 10th pick...not late first round. I expect to get a player who is ready to start and contribute. Cam needs to sit the bench at least a year maybe more and seriously study and learn to read coverages. In the NFL dont go under center before the snap and then look to the side line for the coachs to change the play because you cant read coverages. Cam is like Tebow, half his game in college was running the ball, take that away what do you have? I just dont like him at 10

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mooby

Those arguments don't work in your favor. Plenty of people have won Heismans and national championships in college football and haven't amounted to ish in the NFL.

Ok I understand that BUT how can you call anyone garbage that hasn't rem had a chance?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Ok I understand that BUT how can you call anyone garbage that hasn't rem had a chance?

Well his body of work in college this year has been impressive, but he has one year of college football experience and while he has been impressive throwing and running, he needs a lot more work before he's ready to be a quarterback at the NFL level. He could easily be a bust if he just comes in and assumes his natural talent will let him succeed at the NFL level.