Carson Palmer demands trade, threatens to retire...

[MattsRiff]

Hmm, think Donovan or Albert would look good in tiger stripes?

Carson Palmer wants Cincinnati Bengals to trade him or he may retire, sources say - ESPN

[GTripp0012]

Yeah, I've written this elsewhere, but I would definitely go after Carson Palmer, when Palmer comes available. There's a point at which the price may go too high, but I doubt there will be a better player on the market in the next two years at the QB position. Andrew Luck excluded.

[tryfuhl]

Maybe it's part him, part the team, but he hasn't looked very good in a few years.. couldn't justify that anymore than the McNabb trade

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Maybe it's part him, part the team, but he hasn't looked very good in a few years.. couldn't justify that anymore than the McNabb trade

Exactly!! If you have watched him close, his arm strength seems to have waekened badly

[skinsfaninok]

No way in hell would I want Palmer. Old and washed up

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Maybe it's part him, part the team, but he hasn't looked very good in a few years.. couldn't justify that anymore than the McNabb trade

Well, if they pay the McNabb price, I pretty much agree with you. He'd still be a better acquisition, just not a justifiable one

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No way in hell would I want Palmer. Old and washed up

You were for the McNabb trade, though?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You were for the McNabb trade, though?

You can't compare the 2, Mcnabb is a border line HOF that been to multiple playoff games and to a SB.

What's Palmer done? O yea nothing. And he's had plenty of talent around him

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

You can't compare the 2, Mcnabb is a border line HOF that been to multiple playoff games and to a SB.

What's Palmer done? O yea nothing. And he's had plenty of talent around him

There's no way McNabb's a borderline hall of famer, being that he's at the end of his career and doesn't qualify for the hall of fame by pretty much any criteria. Palmer is much closer to the middle of his career than McNabb is, and I think he's been better than McNabb going back to 2005. He certainly was this past season.

I can't speak as to the declining arm strength/skill sets of one or the other, and wouldn't expect Palmer to have another run quite like 2005-2007 here, but I'd expect him to look better than 2009-10 anywhere once he escapes Cincinnati. He's was that offenses' best player this year. I think Chad's the one who is most obviously in decline.

[GTripp0012]

Palmer in 2010:

3970 passing yards, 6.8 Y/A, 26 TDs, sacked just 4.2% of the time. The 20 INTs are one of the reasons the Bengals lost 12 games. But like I said, escaping Cincinnati will be good for him.

[skinsfaninok]

Of course he had 26 TDs their loaded at WR.. Mcnabb has never had that kind of WR cast and he's always played pretty darn good. Change may help him but it probably won't. In all honesty he's basically been just slightly better than JC.. No thanks

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Of course he had 26 TDs their loaded at WR.. Mcnabb has never had that kind of WR cast and he's always played pretty darn good. Change may help him but it probably won't. In all honesty he's basically been just slightly better than JC.. No thanks

Wait. Didn't have McNabb have Owens before he was aging and inconsistently productive? Maybe we need to explain how a team can pick up a player who no one else wants, add him to a declining cast, and suddenly be loaded at a position that they were weak at the prior season, then have his best two passing days when both big name receivers are inactive. You may have answers that I do not.

He didn't look old or washed up when the old, washed up receivers were hurt.

[SmootSmack]

I'd like to see if Palmer gets the same hate Ocho got three years ago

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

You can't compare the 2, Mcnabb is a border line HOF that been to multiple playoff games and to a SB.

What's Palmer done? O yea nothing. And he's had plenty of talent around him

Carson Palmer is the patron saint of Quarterbacks. Thanks to his injury in the playoffs some odd years ago it's now practically illegal to touch the QB.

[skinsfaninok]

So Gtripp are you saying Palmer is better than mcnabb in their respective careers? No way IMO..

SS I think Cincy was waiting for this to happen I mean Palmer has done a solid job but the guy has never really won anything.. Of course no one really has with the bengals but was Palmer worth the Number 1 pick?