free agency 2011

skinsfaninok · 12-01-2010, 02:07 PM

Maybe we can sign Sydney Rice and maybe a Legedu naanee this offseason.

Orton will be the biggest QB FA available IF Denver lets him walk but I doubt they will.

Paintrain · 12-01-2010, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I thought I have seen it both ways. Do you know what specifically forbids them from using replacements? I had read a real good article on why the de-certification tact won't be a very effective tool this time around, but now can't seem to find it.

I looked for a link but can't find it but I have heard a few (Mort, King, Sheft, Lombardi) say that because of the federal anti trust exemption they have they are not allowed to use replacement workers at a time they are locking workers out.

I'm probably in the minority on this one but I am 100% behind the players. The owners agreed to a deal and then backed out of it. They are trying to expand the regular season for no other reason but greed. You signed a deal, live with it.

Back on topic, I think we will be very aggressive in free agency (whenever it is) at the same time purging much of the carryover roster (Moss, Rabach, Dockery, Portis, Daniels, Carter, Sellers, maybe even Fletcher) in another transition year.

CultBrennan59 · 12-01-2010, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think we should go after Aubrayo Franklin, but I am not sure if that site is up to date and whether he'll be a FA next season.

I agree with this, finding a good NT is a hard thing to do, and he simply is a great NT.

I would target a center, either cheap, like Lyle Sendline, or expensive like Ryan Kahlil

I would also consider going after a proven receiver like Vincent Jackson.

Dashon Goldson is a solid FS who is definitely an upgrade over Kareem Moore.

skinster · 12-01-2010, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I looked for a link but can't find it but I have heard a few (Mort, King, Sheft, Lombardi) say that because of the federal anti trust exemption they have they are not allowed to use replacement workers at a time they are locking workers out.

I'm probably in the minority on this one but I am 100% behind the players. The owners agreed to a deal and then backed out of it. They are trying to expand the regular season for no other reason but greed. You signed a deal, live with it.

Back on topic, I think we will be very aggressive in free agency (whenever it is) at the same time purging much of the carryover roster (Moss, Rabach, Dockery, Portis, Daniels, Carter, Sellers, maybe even Fletcher) in another transition year.

I very much disagree with you. The CBA expires this year. That is part of the deal the players signed to have these rules expire this year. They should live with the fact that they are making way too much money while the owners profits are diminishing. Theres no way any single player should be making more money than an owner, but it happens....hell a few owners are losing money every year. It is not greed, it is smart business, and it is not cheep, they have the right to not re-new the CBA because that was in the original contract.

SmootSmack · 12-01-2010, 06:24 PM

What player is making more money than an owner?

skinster · 12-01-2010, 06:31 PM

Green Bay Packers' operating profit drops to $9.8 million - ESPN

I also remember reading an article last year about how much each team makes per year. A few teams lose money, and a whole bunch don't make very much. I'm sorry but I couldn't find the link.

skinster · 12-01-2010, 06:42 PM

NFL Team Valuations - Forbes.com

not the original list I saw, but these work too... I count 6 teams that some players make more than, and the seahawks and raiders apparnatly lost money. Not sure how reliable these numbers are, they seem off considering how much teams like the Bills and Jags made, but then again I do trust forbes. The numbers are apparently going down every year the way the CBA works.

SmootSmack · 12-01-2010, 06:58 PM

You totally lost me. I feel like what I want to say, Schneed will

Dirtbag59 · 12-01-2010, 07:02 PM

Vincent Jackson is the only big free agent we need. The rest of the class should be made up of hard working role players.

skinster · 12-01-2010, 07:03 PM

ignore everything I said. just know that green bay made 9.8 million last year, and the operating profit would going down every year from here on out if the CBA were kept in place.

DM72 · 12-01-2010, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Vincent Jackson is the only big free agent we need. The rest of the class should be made up of hard working role players.

No offense, I'm a little tired of having a team of hard working role players. I want some playmakers.

GTripp0012 · 12-01-2010, 07:39 PM

We'll need to make a few, high-quality (read: big money) signings in this class, which is an unreasonably strong class because no one really hit the market last year.

But there's a difference between giving a couple of big money deals to guys who can improve the overall quality of the roster, and what the Redskins do, which is give creatively deceptive not-so-big-money deals to players who don't actually improve the quality of the roster. More Andre Carters, fewer Adam Archuletas is what we need.

And by fewer, I mean none.

GTripp0012 · 12-01-2010, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Vincent Jackson is the only big free agent we need. The rest of the class should be made up of hard working role players.

Which is to say we should fix this fallacy. We shouldn't give three year contracts to role players on the FA market, we should bring in undrafteds (like Brandon Banks, Keiland Williams, etc) to plug the same holes we would be filling in free agency.

I agree we should go after Jackson. I think we should also go after Ike Taylor, who plays the same defense we play.

I would also go after Ngata, Joseph, Greenway, Woodley, Rice, and Kiwanuka because they are really great players who all should be franchised to stay with their current teams. If they aren't, we can use them on our roster.

But we have to stop going after "next best" types in free agency. It's troublesome to pay "15th best in NFL at their position" guys like top three guys at their position, which is the mistake the Redskins continually make.

Dirtbag59 · 12-01-2010, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DM72

No offense, I'm a little tired of having a team of hard working role players. I want some playmakers.

Offense taken.

GMScud · 12-01-2010, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Maybe we can sign Sydney Rice and maybe a Legedu naanee this offseason.

Orton will be the biggest QB FA available IF Denver lets him walk but I doubt they will.

Orton isn't a FA....

Kyle Orton Gets Contract Extension from Denver Broncos, Tim Tebow Remains Back-Up - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com

12-01-2010, 02:07 PM	#16
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,117	Re: free agency 2011 Maybe we can sign Sydney Rice and maybe a Legedu naanee this offseason. Orton will be the biggest QB FA available IF Denver lets him walk but I doubt they will. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-01-2010, 06:24 PM	#20
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: free agency 2011 What player is making more money than an owner? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-01-2010, 06:31 PM	#21
skinster Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 754	Re: free agency 2011 Green Bay Packers' operating profit drops to $9.8 million - ESPN I also remember reading an article last year about how much each team makes per year. A few teams lose money, and a whole bunch don't make very much. I'm sorry but I couldn't find the link.

12-01-2010, 06:42 PM	#22
skinster Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 754	Re: free agency 2011 NFL Team Valuations - Forbes.com not the original list I saw, but these work too... I count 6 teams that some players make more than, and the seahawks and raiders apparnatly lost money. Not sure how reliable these numbers are, they seem off considering how much teams like the Bills and Jags made, but then again I do trust forbes. The numbers are apparently going down every year the way the CBA works.

12-01-2010, 06:58 PM	#23
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: free agency 2011 You totally lost me. I feel like what I want to say, Schneed will __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-01-2010, 07:02 PM	#24
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: free agency 2011 Vincent Jackson is the only big free agent we need. The rest of the class should be made up of hard working role players. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

12-01-2010, 07:03 PM	#25
skinster Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 754	Re: free agency 2011 ignore everything I said. just know that green bay made 9.8 million last year, and the operating profit would going down every year from here on out if the CBA were kept in place.

12-01-2010, 07:39 PM	#27
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: free agency 2011 We'll need to make a few, high-quality (read: big money) signings in this class, which is an unreasonably strong class because no one really hit the market last year. But there's a difference between giving a couple of big money deals to guys who can improve the overall quality of the roster, and what the Redskins do, which is give creatively deceptive not-so-big-money deals to players who don't actually improve the quality of the roster. More Andre Carters, fewer Adam Archuletas is what we need. And by fewer, I mean none. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

free agency 2011

Locker Room Main Forum