Randy Moss Waived (claimed by Titans)

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

McNabb has not been all that accurate on his deep throws this year, Armstrong and Moss have both done excellent jobs adjusting to passes

If not for turnovers we'd be 2-6 is like saying if Blackwood doesn't slip and fail to tackle Riggins we lose SB XVII. Blackwood didn't tackle Riggins and we did get turnovers. Why? Because Riggo stiff-armed Blackwood and we made plays to get the ball. These things weren't accidents that were gift-wrapped to us. Give our guys some credit. And stop calling it luck

Randy Moss wouldn't have really done much for our OL woes, and nothing for our run defense

Randy Moss is most likely a sure-fire 1st ballot HOF, but this isn't 2002. Where he'll be 5 years after he retires has nothing to do with what he can contribute now

And on and on...

Why do you think the team showed little or no interest in obtaining his services?

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

McNabb has not been all that accurate on his deep throws this year, Armstrong and Moss have both done excellent jobs adjusting to passes

If not for turnovers we'd be 2-6 is like saying if Blackwood doesn't slip and fail to tackle Riggins we lose SB XVII. Blackwood didn't tackle Riggins and we did get turnovers. Why? Because Riggo stiff-armed Blackwood and we made plays to get the ball. These things weren't accidents that were gift-wrapped to us. Give our guys some credit. And stop calling it luck

Randy Moss wouldn't have really done much for our OL woes, and nothing for our run defense

Randy Moss is most likely a sure-fire 1st ballot HOF, but this isn't 2002. Where he'll be 5 years after he retires has nothing to do with what he can contribute now

And on and on...

I don't know what on and on means...but my point is this.
I think many here believe that not putting a claim in for Moss was a mistake.
It looks to me that about 75% of folks wanted him.
It is easy to say ...well those grapes were probably sour after the fact....but don't be suprised if a few are pissed when we miss on a talent that could help us fight for a playoff chance.

Note:
I agree about Moss/Armstrong/McNabb/oline/Moss being older/run defense.
However, we have had some luck this year with other teams self destructing that contributed to wins, but we lost the Texans game due to the ball hitting the uprights...everything evens out in the end and you end up with the record you deserve...we are a 500 team right now because we are playing like that, if not for turnovers, we'd obviously be worse off. You just can't count on a positive turnover ratio to get you into the playoffs...I'd rather earn the yards than hope we can continue to miraculously steal them.

But I do think passing on Moss was a mistake. I think many agree

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Why do you think the team showed little or no interest in obtaining his services?

Honestly. I don't know. I get the feeling that they really do like Galloway because they feel that he's a veteran that won't get in the way of the progress of Armstrong whereas maybe Moss might? I don't know, just guessing. Personally I would have dropped Galloway a long time ago, regardless of picking up Moss. I think adding Moss could have helped in the interim, but we're not a worse team by not signing him. Guess the attention turns back to V Jax in the spring.

[hooskins]

I don't know how getting an old receiver is really going to help our team, especially when he quits on plays. You can say the Viks were a more talented team than us, and Moss gave them no help at all. I could see a player like Moss not mesh well in a town like DC. The media is super critical and will not gel with him at all and the team in struggling. I doubt Moss would get a ton of chances to make big plays bc the OL wont give McNabb more than 3 seconds to throw the ball. Moss will get more frustrated and just tank.

We would would have to eat the rest of his contract, for a gamble where the odds are strongly against us. I just don't understand this at all. Why do three quarters of the fans here think he is going to help our passing game if Moss is primarily a deep route kind of guy? He isn't fit for the screen game(only kind of play that the OL could possibly block for) and he is not going to help blocking while he gets open.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Honestly. I don't know. I get the feeling that they really do like Galloway because they feel that he's a veteran that won't get in the way of the progress of Armstrong whereas maybe Moss might? I don't know, just guessing. Personally I would have dropped Galloway a long time ago, regardless of picking up Moss. I think adding Moss could have helped in the interim, but we're not a worse team by not signing him. Guess the attention turns back to V Jax in the spring.

Your way of thinking coincides with mine. After lasting all of four games with the Vikes, Brad Childress classified Moss as "A programmatic - non-fit".

With all the distractions we already have going on, the team needing to refocus for the second half of the season, another volatile personality added to the mix at this time just might not be the best way to proceed.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Why do you think the team showed little or no interest in obtaining his services?

The same reason 31 other teams passed on him. Tennessee was the only team to put in a waiver claim.

He takes more plays off than not. He has talent but is lazy on the field and doesn't use it most plays. He has a mouth without an off-button. Criminal record. The list goes on.

He's a VERY HIGH RISK, little chance of big reward guy. Could he win you games? Absolutely? Could he ruin your season? More than likely.

Tennessee is desperate, their only really productive WR is injured. Nate Washington can't carry the load himself. They're still in contention but in an extremely tough division with Indy, Houston and a Jags team that shows up for big games (only).

Sure we could use a WR and if he was picked up by the team, I'd be excited for his POTENTIAL and the attention he'd draw from our opponents' defenses, freeing up our better Moss for even more success. Fletcher would have to work hard to keep him in line and odds are, with Shanahan's no-nonsense approach, things would go south by the end of the year.

[CRedskinsRule]

I voted yes. I rued when we passed on him. But seriously, is it the end of the Skins season? I doubt it. Shanahan and Allen both have said that they have a plan in place. I don't imagine that included Moss being waived 2 times in one year. Could they have altered their plan sure, but is it a must do? Apparently not for us or 20 other teams in the league.

I am done rueing, but can't yet say I am thrilled we didn't take him. For me it's a bummer, but Let's Go Skins!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Buster

The same reason 31 other teams passed on him. Tennessee was the only team to put in a waiver claim.

He takes more plays off than not. He has talent but is lazy on the field and doesn't use it most plays. He has a mouth without an off-button. Criminal record. The list goes on.

He's a VERY HIGH RISK, little chance of big reward guy. Could he win you games? Absolutely? Could he ruin your season? More than likely.

Tennessee is desperate, their only really productive WR is injured. Nate Washington can't carry the load himself. They're still in contention but in an extremely tough division with Indy, Houston and a Jags team that shows up for big games (only).

Sure we could use a WR and if he was picked up by the team, I'd be excited for his POTENTIAL and the attention he'd draw from our opponents' defenses, freeing up our better Moss for even more success. Fletcher would have to work hard to keep him in line and odds are, with Shanahan's no-nonsense approach, things would go south by the end of the year.

It would be very hard for anyone who has observed Moss closely over the years to disagree with your assertion. Talented but problematic.

[SirClintonPortis]

Tennessee could care less if he scored 0 touchdowns. They(and Chris Johnson fantasy owners) just needed someone to open things up for Chris Johnson.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

It would be very hard for anyone who has observed Moss closely over the years to disagree with your assertion. Talented but problematic.

Absolutely still talented, just look at that one-handed TD catch on Revis this year. I've never seen anyone catch a ball like that before, it was incredible.

However, that was probably one of just a handful of plays he actually put any effort in.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

McNabb has not been all that accurate on his deep throws this year, Armstrong and Moss have both done excellent jobs adjusting to passes

If not for turnovers we'd be 2-6 is like saying if Blackwood doesn't slip and fail to tackle Riggins we lose SB XVII. Blackwood didn't tackle Riggins and we did get turnovers. Why? Because Riggo stiff-armed Blackwood and we made plays to get the ball. These things weren't accidents that were gift-wrapped to us. Give our guys some credit. And stop calling it luck

Randy Moss wouldn't have really done much for our OL woes, and nothing for our run defense

Randy Moss is most likely a sure-fire 1st ballot HOF, but this isn't 2002. Where he'll be 5 years after he retires has nothing to do with what he can contribute now

And on and on...

It's amazing what logic does for you.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Buster

Absolutely still talented, just look at that one-handed TD catch on Revis this year. I've never seen anyone catch a ball like that before, it was incredible.

However, that was probably one of just a handful of plays he actually put any effort in.

Meanwhile back in Cinci, T.O. is quietly racking up talented TD's of his own. And no drama I might add.

YouTube - Week 8 2010 - Terrell Owen's Halloween...

[Monkeydad]

Coach Fisher, this is you in a month:

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Meanwhile back in Cinci, T.O. is quietly racking up talented TD's of his own. And no drama I might add.

None in Cinci, but he did take a shot at McNabb on the TOcho Show this week

[44ever]

Originally Posted by jdlea

None in Cinci, but he did take a shot at McNabb on the TOcho Show this week

My point is we are fine without T.O. We are fine without Moss. Both of them are great talented receivers. We had a shot at both of them and passed. I don't think it really matters in the big picture of things as far as the Skins future is concerned.

Everyone was against T.O. because they were scared of the locker room distractions. Moss fills the same argument IMO.

It would have been fun and exciting to have either on our team IMO. But neither is a make or break for the Skins. At this point I think the best we can hope for at this point is that DM comes back on fire and that he and Shanny really have "put things behind them".