The Official 2010 Training Camp Thread

SkinzWin · 08-02-2010, 01:18 PM

I was hoping SS could shed some light on the situation. SO you think a trade for VJ would not include trading away Kelly, but instead cutting him outright? I would think if we were going to trade for VJ that the Chargers would want Kelly in the hopes that maybe he does better there. I would think it was worth a chance anyway...

SirClintonPortis · 08-02-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I was hoping SS could shed some light on the situation. SO you think a trade for VJ would not include trading away Kelly, but instead cutting him outright? I would think if we were going to trade for VJ that the Chargers would want Kelly in the hopes that maybe he does better there. I would think it was worth a chance anyway...

No, it what the guy said in the comments section of the Day 3 Training Camp Report:

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The team does not want to give up Moss and the Redskins told the Chargers they would not do it at this time......Do not be surprised if the Skins cut Kelly and trade DT and a 2nd round pick for VJ, I like DT but Moss ond VJ with the other vets could be pretty good.....The talk is that with the 2 TE's we have they could get by without Thomas and Kelly and with VJ some at Redskins park think they would be better off......DT and MK are just not cutting it and the staff has no confidence in them from whet my bro is hearing around the office...........Will be back tomorrow night, got to go to Tampa, got some tickets to the Rays-Yankee game.......HAIL, thanks bro, I know you read this!

GhettoDogAllStars · 08-02-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

So who is the mystery "bro"?

The mystery bro knows all -- including the answer to question 3.

Monkeydad · 08-02-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

No, it what the guy said in the comments section of the Day 3 Training Camp Report:

NO WAY we do that disaster deal. Lose DT and MK for a malcontent, old WR who won't play for at least 3 games to start the year?

JLC is full of crap here:
NFL.com news: Redskins interested in Bolts' Jackson; Seahawks in mix, too

Seriously, Devin is a possible cut? That's just stupid, he's possibly our #2 WR.

Monkeydad · 08-02-2010, 01:36 PM

HUH? Why?

Twitter / Aaron Wilson: John Beck has been traded ...

We traded for QB John Beck?

SirClintonPortis · 08-02-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

NO WAY we do that disaster deal. Lose DT and MK for a malcontent, old WR who won't play for at least 3 games to start the year?

JLC is full of crap here:
NFL.com news: Redskins interested in Bolts' Jackson; Seahawks in mix, too

Seriously, Devin is a possible cut? That's just stupid, he's possibly our #2 WR.

Sorry, that guy is not JLC, and said that DT maybe traded to the Chargers while MK gets the snip-snip. Pay closer attention next time.
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Although trading for a QB who's likely going to be cut can be added my list of Shanarat's crimes; the other two being not re-signing Ethan Albright and Hunter Smith.

SmootSmack · 08-02-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I was hoping SS could shed some light on the situation. SO you think a trade for VJ would not include trading away Kelly, but instead cutting him outright? I would think if we were going to trade for VJ that the Chargers would want Kelly in the hopes that maybe he does better there. I would think it was worth a chance anyway...

Well, I would say this. The only time Kelly was seriously a part of any discussion this past off-season was when the Redskins put him out there in a bid for Brandon Marshall. Broncos weren't interested.

I don't think MK is helping the Redskins out if they're hoping to use him as trade bait for Jackson. If they do go after Jackson, and I've heard mixed things on that, it's probably going to take Devin Thomas.

SkinzWin · 08-02-2010, 02:00 PM

Is it even worth giving up Thomas for VJ? I'm sure theyd probably want Thomas plus picks.

Lotus · 08-02-2010, 02:08 PM

Could we get San Diego to take a (repackaged) 3-4 DE named Haynesworth for VJ?

Or, since Minny showed some previous interest in AH, maybe pull off a three-way trade?

SmootSmack · 08-02-2010, 02:09 PM

Honestly, and this just my belief, I don't think we're going to trade for VJ. And I think a big reason why is that the Chargers will not settle for less than something like DT and a 2nd round pick. And Allen will say no.

SkinzWin · 08-02-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Honestly, and this just my belief, I don't think we're going to trade for VJ. And I think a big reason why is that the Chargers will not settle for less than something like DT and a 2nd round pick. And Allen will say no.

Maybe if they get desperate enough....

sandtrapjack · 08-02-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I think he mentioned Kelly may be cut so that he can latch on to another team.

Another juicy tidbit(fantasy super-sleeper?):

That would be totally off the wall, truly.

Gonna cut a 20-something year old WR that is still under his rookie deal entering his third year. But only after ONE weekend of practice with a new coaching staff? The first cutdown day is not untill the 31st of August, 4 full weeks away and after a couple of pre-season games.

That just does not add up. Why even ponder trading picks and players only after a couple of practices?

wilsowilso · 08-02-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

That would be totally off the wall, truly.

Gonna cut a 20-something year old WR that is still under his rookie deal entering his third year. But only after ONE weekend of practice with a new coaching staff? The first cutdown day is not untill the 31st of August, 4 full weeks away and after a couple of pre-season games.

That just does not add up. Why even ponder trading picks and players only after a couple of practices?

"because of the kids......they called me Mr. Glass."

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 08-02-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

That would be totally off the wall, truly.

Gonna cut a 20-something year old WR that is still under his rookie deal entering his third year. But only after ONE weekend of practice with a new coaching staff? The first cutdown day is not untill the 31st of August, 4 full weeks away and after a couple of pre-season games.

That just does not add up. Why even ponder trading picks and players only after a couple of practices?

In defense of the FO, this is not exactly something that is very new. They were looking into aquiring VJ before camp even started. I think they have a pretty good idea about the WR position already and training camp is just reitterating what they already knew.

sandtrapjack · 08-02-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

In defense of the FO, this is not exactly something that is very new. They were looking into aquiring VJ before camp even started. I think they have a pretty good idea about the WR position already and training camp is just reitterating what they already knew.

Not questioning the FO. I'm questioning the SOURCE.

What credible source from the FO has come forward and even mentioning anything related to releasing Kelly and pursuing VJ, or any other WR for that part? Everything has been wrapped around rumor and speculation.

Sure that cant come right out and say they are interested in VJ due to tampering rules, but other than specualtion in the media and rumors on message boards, where does this come from?

08-02-2010, 01:18 PM	#271
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,543	Re: The Official 2010 Training Camp Thread I was hoping SS could shed some light on the situation. SO you think a trade for VJ would not include trading away Kelly, but instead cutting him outright? I would think if we were going to trade for VJ that the Chargers would want Kelly in the hopes that maybe he does better there. I would think it was worth a chance anyway... __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Team Heinicke Fan Club punch it in - CEO SkinzWin - President FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment Meks - Director of Marketing

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08-02-2010, 02:00 PM	#278
SkinzWin Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,543	Re: The Official 2010 Training Camp Thread Is it even worth giving up Thomas for VJ? I'm sure theyd probably want Thomas plus picks. __________________ Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever... Team Heinicke Fan Club punch it in - CEO SkinzWin - President FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment Meks - Director of Marketing

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Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: The Official 2010 Training Camp Thread Could we get San Diego to take a (repackaged) 3-4 DE named Haynesworth for VJ? Or, since Minny showed some previous interest in AH, maybe pull off a three-way trade? __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

08-02-2010, 02:09 PM	#280
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: The Official 2010 Training Camp Thread Honestly, and this just my belief, I don't think we're going to trade for VJ. And I think a big reason why is that the Chargers will not settle for less than something like DT and a 2nd round pick. And Allen will say no. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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