Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread

[SBXVII]

Sorry 12th. Maybe I quoted the wrong person. It looked like you were writing it. Then after I posted my comment quoting what I thought was yours I see that you were refering to someone elses comments. I think.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Piss poor, really? Slow down, we haven't gotten to draft day yet.

You have to figure Casey Rabach, D.Dockery, and maybe Levi Jones will be three of your five starters. Keep in mind we signed Levi Jones late October, but now we'll have him for a full training camp. So I expect him to be in better shape and, quite frankly, a better offensive tackle. The other two spots will probably go to a drafted rookie (hopefully a really good one), Chad Rinehart and/or Artis Hicks, and maybe another FA between now and the start of the season.

All I'm saying is it's still very early and we can't grab every Tom, Dick, and Harry FA out there just because they're available.

OMG.

#1- How do you know there is not a plan?
#2- How do you know they are not executing the plan?
#3- Why do we fans always believe we should be in the know on the plans?

If we knew the plans so would all the other teams and they would game plan around that. Possibly screwing us in the process.

Then there's the fact that I keep calling it rebuild mode. Yeah I know Allen said he didn't like the word or something but by avoiding the term people get the false sense of security plus with his "we are not that bad of a team" speach people are right back in the "we are just one player or 3 away from being contenders" mode. Your upset that they didn't come out ball to the walls signing people. I'm dissapointed also but seeing that we didn't just throw money away to try to solve a problem with an aged vet makes be happy. Now ask me how we are going to fill the position? I have no Fing clue. But you can't tell me we hired two inept front office/HCing people who don't know what they are doing and they wouldn't be doing it with out a plan.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure how or why my name is being quoted here when I responding to someone else. But I think you and I are on the same page.

[SBXVII]

Your's did the same thing mine did when I tried to quote what I thought was your statement. The site blended my quote with your statement. LOL.

[diehard]

I'm really nervous about the holes we have on the team right now. There's not a lot of quality UFAs and the team cannot afford to lose draft picks. Tendering Rodgers and McIntosh could bring interest.

[Bushead]

It's going to have to be a slow rebuilding process because this team needs lots of pieces. As we have seen, just going out and picking 3 or 4 people who are the best of just one free agent year is not the way to build prolonged success.

Many of the free agents who were out there were around the 30 years old. So they can play at a high level for another 3-4 years? The skins do just need to take it slow and draft some lineman and pick and choose where in free agency to do something.

Even if they went out and got every offensive lineman available, our center is still suspect, our RG is suspect, our QB is a question mark, we don't have much at RB or FB, we have unproven WR with a declining Moss, and for defense a poor secondary.

It's going to take a while guys.

[PHazard]

Real Redskins:

RT @NandoGroup: @SI_PeterKing I'm hearing that LT wants to play for the #Redskins, that's from a Charger guy here in SD that works with LT


So LT or Willie Parker guys?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by PHazard

Real Redskins:

RT @NandoGroup: @SI_PeterKing I'm hearing that LT wants to play for the #Redskins, that's from a Charger guy here in SD that works with LT


So LT or Willie Parker guys?

Neither. But if I had to take one, I'd take Parker. LT has not been LT in some time.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Im not sold on this front office, they are doing piss poor job of fixing an offensive line. I dont see many FA OT left. Unless they plan to go OT 2 of the 5 draft picks, were going into the next year in the same position as 2009....And even if they do, youre hoping 2 rookies come in and start right away......Reaks of a slow rebuilding process

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Piss poor, really? Slow down, we haven't gotten to draft day yet.

You have to figure Casey Rabach, D.Dockery, and maybe Levi Jones will be three of your five starters. Keep in mind we signed Levi Jones late October, but now we'll have him for a full training camp. So I expect him to be in better shape and, quite frankly, a better offensive tackle. The other two spots will probably go to a drafted rookie (hopefully a really good one), Chad Rinehart and/or Artis Hicks, and maybe another FA between now and the start of the season.

All I'm saying is it's still very early and we can't grab every Tom, Dick, and Harry FA out there just because they're available.[/QUOTE]

Diminishing marginal returns.

[SBXVII]

Any RB would be crazy not to want to be in Shanahan's scheme since they have produced 1000+ yards runners every year. It would go a long way to prove to people your not as bad as everyone thinks you are.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Any RB would be crazy not to want to be in Shanahan's scheme since they have produced 1000+ yards runners every year. It would go a long way to prove to people your not as bad as everyone thinks you are.

More like it overstates the RB's ability and understates the OL's contribution...until the RB goes elsewhere.
Portis and Terrell Davis were exceptions, but they were also exceptional statistically in the system as well.

[diehard]

The reality is that the new FO had nothing to do with setting the FA market and the cuts made to the current roster were right on point with needs to be filled throughout the draft.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

Changing the subject from necessary and enjoyable critiques of the Giants, Pashos signed with the Browns:
Source: Tony Pashos strikes three-year, $10.3 million deal with Browns - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Losing Pashos for $3.5m a year is the first Shanahanian move that I don't like.

Im not sold on this front office, they are doing piss poor job of fixing an offensive line. I dont see many FA OT left. Unless they plan to go OT 2 of the 5 draft picks, were going into the next year in the same position as 2009....And even if they do, youre hoping 2 rookies come in and start right away......Reaks of a slow rebuilding process[/QUOTE]


Piss poor? Come on now. A fundamental change that is needed in the FO is the squandering of cash for guys that don't earn their keep with huge contracts. I doubt AH would have been signed by Allen for $100 million. So far the the guy's stay here is mixed at the very best. With our relatively quiet FA period thus far, you can already see the change coming. How can some teams be perennial winners being tens of millions under the cap? Smart business and great scouting revolving around a good business plan. And your bitching about a slow rebuilding process? Allen and co are trying to reverse a decade old spending binge and ad hoc business model that produced substandard results. It is like trying to clean up a heroine addict. Not going to happen overnight.

[SirClintonPortis]

Limas Sweed is basically done in Pittsburgh. The Rotoworld report says that the Stillers are conducting business like he's not even there. Apparently, he's a little slow, but he's big at 6' 4''

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Bushead

It's going to have to be a slow rebuilding process because this team needs lots of pieces. As we have seen, just going out and picking 3 or 4 people who are the best of just one free agent year is not the way to build prolonged success.

Many of the free agents who were out there were around the 30 years old. So they can play at a high level for another 3-4 years? The skins do just need to take it slow and draft some lineman and pick and choose where in free agency to do something.

Even if they went out and got every offensive lineman available, our center is still suspect, our RG is suspect, our QB is a question mark, we don't have much at RB or FB, we have unproven WR with a declining Moss, and for defense a poor secondary.

It's going to take a while guys.

I agree. 2-3 seasons in my book, and that is if our present WR corp develops, a big if in my opinion. Moss is on the decline. I would consider using him as possible trade bait. Highly unlikely someone will take him though.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

Changing the subject from necessary and enjoyable critiques of the Giants, Pashos signed with the Browns:
Source: Tony Pashos strikes three-year, $10.3 million deal with Browns - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Losing Pashos for $3.5m a year is the first Shanahanian move that I don't like.

Im not sold on this front office, they are doing piss poor job of fixing an offensive line. I dont see many FA OT left. Unless they plan to go OT 2 of the 5 draft picks, were going into the next year in the same position as 2009....And even if they do, youre hoping 2 rookies come in and start right away......Reaks of a slow rebuilding process[/QUOTE]




Calm down...Pashos blows anyway, Clifton would have been a better signing than him. Hicks signing was a good move. Look there isnt a lot out there to choose from and honestly I love the fact we seemed to be focused on the one area being overlooked for the last 5 years.........Good job Allen