Massachusetts Senate Race

[The Goat]

So what's the deal exactly? Why couldn't the Dem party in Mass find a strong candidate? There's ummm, quite a few people up there from what I understand, most of them being Dems.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

So what's the deal exactly? Why couldn't the Dem party in Mass find a strong candidate? There's ummm, quite a few people up there from what I understand, most of them being Dems.

Plain old arrogance dude. They thought it was shoe in because Kennedy held the seat for so long and Mass is reliably blue. Also the special election process just stinks if you ask me. But Coakley just isn't a campaigner; she didn't want it bad enough. The comment about Schilling being a Yankee fan was just nutso.

The Dems had better pull their heads out of their asses though. Seriously. One thing I'm starting to see, and hopefully they're starting to see, is that Obama's appeal hasn't been transferable. You know, people aren't exactly voting against him, but his popularity isn't moving the needle either. Voters aren't enthusiastic because Obama came to town. His presidency is unique in that it's all about him and not really affecting national elections one way or another. As we move into the mid-terms I really hope these guys can see that.

Besides, I might have to quit coming to Warpath if we keep dropping like flies

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The Dems had better pull their heads out of their asses though. Seriously. One thing I'm starting to see, and hopefully they're starting to see, is that Obama's appeal hasn't been transferable. You know, people aren't exactly voting against him, but his popularity isn't moving the needle either. Voters aren't enthusiastic because Obama came to town. His presidency is unique in that it's all about him and not really affecting national elections one way or another. As we move into the mid-terms I really hope these guys can see that.

Besides, I might have to quit coming to Warpath if we keep dropping like flies

I think it's hard to draw parallels between Barack and the national scene but what you say makes sense. Personally I've been way more impressed w/ him than I expected to be, both in terms of comparison and just what's been accomplished. All I can remember from the first year under Bush is 1) him slashing federal aid to students (i was a student then) 2) him colluding w/ the f*cks at Enron (they all had Thanksgiving dinner together and the admin specifically gave the execs extra time to sell their stock in the company rather) 3) Cheney colluding w/ energy suppliers in Texas who screwed over the rest of the country (remember the great audio clips of Cheney's buddy saying "f*ck em, f*ck em all) 4) Bush ignoring CIA reports specifically warning of terrorist hijackings in the U.S.

Fast-forward and I can't say there's much I'd like to see different over the last year. I wish there was a real national health plan option because I've spent enough time in other 1st world nations to know what they have works infinitely better than the POS plan I have through BCBS. But that probably won't happen until private insurance literally ruins the country and we have to start from scratch...hell Truman tried over 60 yrs ago for national coverage it's not like this is anything revolutionary. One thing I like best about the current state of affairs is the current defense sec. Gates was just one or two of Bush's solid appointments in gov and thankfully the guy has stayed on. He is steadily cutting down on what is the most wasteful facet of government, and because he's a Rep holdover working for this pres it's not getting too much attention

[70Chip]

The Democrats could still steal this. There are over 100,000 dead people still registered and over 500,000 who no longer reside in Mass. The Democrats could very well steal it.

Either way. this health care nonsense is the rope we will use to hang the Liberals. If Pelosi gets her way; if cooler heads don't prevail; if some moderate or group of moderates doesn't pull the plug on the current legislation; then we Republicans will festoon our bed chambers with Left Wing guts, figuratively speaking.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

The Democrats could still steal this. There are over 100,000 dead people still registered and over 500,000 who no longer reside in Mass. The Democrats could very well steal it.

Either way. this health care nonsense is the rope we will use to hang the Liberals. If Pelosi gets her way; if cooler heads don't prevail; if some moderate or group of moderates doesn't pull the plug on the current legislation; then we Republicans will festoon our bed chambers with Left Wing guts, figuratively speaking.

Help yourself to some decent meat. Great Gangs of New York reference.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

The Democrats could still steal this. There are over 100,000 dead people still registered and over 500,000 who no longer reside in Mass. The Democrats could very well steal it.

Either way. this health care nonsense is the rope we will use to hang the Liberals. If Pelosi gets her way; if cooler heads don't prevail; if some moderate or group of moderates doesn't pull the plug on the current legislation; then we Republicans will festoon our bed chambers with Left Wing guts, figuratively speaking.

If you ain't cheating you ain't trying...just ask your boy Romney who no longer lives in MA but uses his son's address to maintain his MA residency.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by saden1

If you ain't cheating you ain't trying...just ask your boy Romney who no longer lives in MA but uses his son's address to maintain his MA residency.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

This is the most reasonable non football post you've ever created. Let the ancient laws of combat decide who holds sway over the 5 points for good and all.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

This is the most reasonable non football post you've ever created. Let the ancient laws of combat decide who holds sway over the 5 points for good and all.

You need to try harder with my post...and yes, if it comes to it I will gut you.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

If you ain't cheating you ain't trying...just ask your boy Romney who no longer lives in MA but uses his son's address to maintain his MA residency.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Thats a pretty big stretch because he has owned those other homes while he has lived in Mass. He is in the process of buying a home and moving but has not yet done so. My parents own a second home in NC and if they sold their home in Va and while looking for a new home they would not change their living address to NC while looking for a new home. This election would not even been taking place if the dems didn't change the rules when they thought it would help them. Try again.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Thats a pretty big stretch because he has owned those other homes while he has lived in Mass. He is in the process of buying a home and moving but has not yet done so. My parents own a second home in NC and if they sold their home in Va and while looking for a new home they would not change their living address to NC while looking for a new home. This election would not even been taking place if the dems didn't change the rules when they thought it would help them. Try again.

He sold his only MA home in April 2008. A man with the kind of cash he has shouldn't have any trouble scooping up a home or building one in no time. You and I both know what he's doing so let's cut the pretense.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

The Democrats could still steal this. There are over 100,000 dead people still registered and over 500,000 who no longer reside in Mass. The Democrats could very well steal it.

Either way. this health care nonsense is the rope we will use to hang the Liberals. If Pelosi gets her way; if cooler heads don't prevail; if some moderate or group of moderates doesn't pull the plug on the current legislation; then we Republicans will festoon our bed chambers with Left Wing guts, figuratively speaking.

this statement makes me laugh

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Plain old arrogance dude. They thought it was shoe in because Kennedy held the seat for so long and Mass is reliably blue. Also the special election process just stinks if you ask me. But Coakley just isn't a campaigner; she didn't want it bad enough. The comment about Schilling being a Yankee fan was just nutso.

The Dems had better pull their heads out of their asses though. Seriously. One thing I'm starting to see, and hopefully they're starting to see, is that Obama's appeal hasn't been transferable. You know, people aren't exactly voting against him, but his popularity isn't moving the needle either. Voters aren't enthusiastic because Obama came to town. His presidency is unique in that it's all about him and not really affecting national elections one way or another. As we move into the mid-terms I really hope these guys can see that.

Besides, I might have to quit coming to Warpath if we keep dropping like flies

They thought it was a shoe in because Mass is 3 to 1 dems and Obama carried the state with a strong 26% more voters. If the Rep win the election or even comme close I think it direct reflection on Obama and what they now think of his agenda. The voters in Mass know they are the only one's stopping health care reform and that a big issue because they know what happens when goverment takes over health care. If you don't like the special election you need to be mad at the Dems as they changed the process to insure they would keep the seat but now it looks like it might backfire on them.